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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?


    A ticket IS a misdemeanor. Any ticket. For anything. Parking tickets are a misdemeanor.

    A misdemeanor means a minor legal infraction. It is a catch-all term for any violation of the law that is not a felony.

    The punishment for a misdemeanor depends on the law. In most cases it is a fine. In some cases (such as simple assault) there can be some jail time. Although the exact definition of "misdemeanor" can vary from state to state, a common rule of thumb is that if you can get more than a year in prison for it, it is a felony rather than a misdemeanor.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    I'd say it depends. On the freeway where the speed limit is in excess of 55MPH or in rural areas, 20 over isn't a big deal in my mind. But in crowded cities, on suburban streets, or in areas where the speed limit is under 30MPH, going 20 over is dangerous.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?
    Yes it is reckless. As far as we know you are not a NASCAR(probably a poor example since all they do is turn left and drive in circles, but they are experts at driving fast) or Grand Prix driver. And even if you were most of everyone else is doing the speed limit while changing lanes, breaking, slowing down and speeding back up to the speed limit. Those are speed limit signs not speed suggestion signs, they are up there for a good reason.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    doing 20 over in a 60 zone with light traffic not reckless

    Doing 20 over in a 60 zone with heavy traffic reckless

    Doing 20 over in a school zone reckless
    Doing 20 over is reckless.

    Assuming the posted speed was correct to begin with, which in so far a freeways go, it is not.

    The posted speed for freeways should be around 90.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Yes of course. That wasn't the question. The thread has nothing to do with should punishment accompany an traffic violation, but if such punishment is excessive or not. Virginia seems to be one of a very few states who go as far as charging people with misdemeanors and jail time for things that normally could only entail a ticket and possibly a driving course. It is at least more understandable to issue an expensive ticket for such an offense, but a misdemeanor?
    If anything it is too lenient. You put other people's life at extra risk for your convenience, you deserve what you get.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    They should zone what constitutes reckless where.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    I've never enforced a traffic law in my life, but to my knowledge, reckless driving vs speeding is at the officer's discretion in most cases. If an officer sees you flying down a road going 20 over the limit, say, 70 in a 20 zone, you're going to get slapped with reckless driving, not speeding. And deserve it. Failure to use a signal, the officer I doubt is going to hit you with reckless driving for.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    I drove 60 in a 35 and didn't get a reckless after I explained to the officer I was in a rush coming back from the store to make a HAM sandwich. I must be really charismatic.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I drove 60 in a 35 and didn't get a reckless after I explained to the officer I was in a rush coming back from the store to make a HAM sandwich. I must be really charismatic.
    Exactly... it's at the officer's discretion. In that case I don't really think that is that reckless.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Going 80 mph is not reckless as long as the conditions are correct.
    Speed limits are moronic when the flow of traffic is much faster than the posted limit.
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