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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Maybe we shouldn't pick and choose the rules we follow. Most times, 20 miles over the speed limit is too fast. In arizona, the speed limit is 75 highway, and over that is not tolerated. Would 95 be ok with you?
    At what time and in what place did I argue breaking the law? I argued we should CHANGE the law. At what time and in what place did I argue 20 miles over the limit ISN'T too fast? In arizona, the speed limit varies depending on where you're at, and the punishment also varies. But there is a MAJOR DIFFERENCE between a mandatory 20 mph over the limit (meaning 75 in a 55 is an automatic misdemeanor) versus 20 mph over in a 75-80 posted limit. If you're going 95 or 100 mph ANYWHERE, a misdemeanor makes sense. But a blanket mandatory 20 mph over the limit is excessive.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    The very last legal issue I ever handled was exactly this -- 25 MPH over the limit, in VA.

    There are so many escape valves to this law, no one should ever get their panties in a bunch about it. You need to be a serious repeat offender not to get it kicked. And if you are, then you deserve it.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The very last legal issue I ever handled was exactly this -- 25 MPH over the limit, in VA.

    There are so many escape valves to this law, no one should ever get their panties in a bunch about it. You need to be a serious repeat offender not to get it kicked. And if you are, then you deserve it.
    I get my panties in a bunch because it is clearly a money-making system for the state and for lawyers. You pay $250 to the state for a reduced charge and $750-1000 to a lawyer.

    The fact that you can finagle your way out of a misdemeanor by paying out the ass doesn't deviate from the fact it is an excessive law.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    I get my panties in a bunch because it is clearly a money-making system for the state and for lawyers. You pay $250 to the state for a reduced charge and $750-1000 to a lawyer.

    The fact that you can finagle your way out of a misdemeanor by paying out the ass doesn't deviate from the fact it is an excessive law.
    If you're a first-offender, it'll be kicked; you might pay court costs.

    If you pay $250 for 20 MPH over the speed limit, that lines up with a typical repeat-offender fine.

    Where do you get "$750-1000" for a lawyer on this matter?

    20 MPH over the speed limit is reckless, no matter how you slice it, so a stiff penalty is in order.

    Or do you think there shouldn't be speed limits?
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    I believe so. Reckless has a meaning, and setting arbitrary values strips the word of its meaning. You can go 80 without being reckless.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I misread the poll, it's not excessive at all. Here, going 25 miles over is a felony and should be. Learn to drive or get off the road.
    A felony? Hell ****ing no.
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