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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    If you could magically make religion disappear people would find something to worship it seems to be hardwired into our DNA. Many people who don’t believe in god find something or someone else to glom onto. Money, people or ideas, like global warming for instance or earth worship or Obama as a savior.

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you could magically make religion disappear people would find something to worship it seems to be hardwired into our DNA. Many people who don’t believe in god find something or someone else to glom onto. Money, people or ideas, like global warming for instance or earth worship or Obama as a savior.
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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    This thread is now about Inglip.

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by 305rob305 View Post
    Disagree. We just don't need extreme people. Having some faith and morals is not too bad
    Faith isn't necessary, but morals are; otherwise society couldn't functions. There's even morality among other higher animals.
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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree
    I don't think it would be much different than things are now.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree


    Oh good another ignorant atheist poll who thinks religion is the belief itself in a deity not a group of people adhering to a certain set of beliefs and practices.
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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh good another ignorant atheist poll who thinks religion is the belief itself in a deity not a group of people adhering to a certain set of beliefs and practices.
    Okay, I'm going to go into a Baptist Church and tell the truth that I think the God myth is nonsense, but I believe in their principles and want to join their church. I'm sure they'll sign me up. Thanks for clearing that up.

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Faith isn't necessary, but morals are; otherwise society couldn't functions. There's even morality among other higher animals.
    I agree with that. And we would have a much better chance at being moral if we weren't mired in superstition.
    Last edited by Luna Tick; 06-25-11 at 01:54 PM.

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think we're better off with it. (and this view, here, reflects a change of my opinion on this over the years since I joined this forum)

    Religion goes horribly sour and festers into a negativity when the people involved in it twist it for their own purposes: government, leadership, control, depotism, demagogery, bigotry and so forth.

    These things happen - not because of religion or spirtuality itself - but becaues of the people who abuse it - wielding it like a weapon.
    I understand your current conclusion. Mine comes from thinking that a religion typically does not start with pure motives that are subverted much later; but, rather from leadership wanting to control their group for both the general benefit and for the leadership personal benefit from the beginning.
    But, without religion more people would have to develop a view that has a high level of understanding of how things are and what works for the individual and the group, rather than just doing what the particular book says to.

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Okay, I'm going to go into a Baptist Church and tell the truth that I think the God myth is nonsense, but I believe in their principles and want to join their church. I'm sure they'll sign me up. Thanks for clearing that up.
    Again religion does not have to require the belief in a deity in order for it to be a religion. Specific religions however may require that you actually believe in a deity seeing how religion is a group of people adhering to a certain set of beliefs and practices and the belief of a deity is party of that belief and practices. Some religious do not require the belief in a deity. For example -

    Man made global warming fairy tale religion

    Religious Belief- Humans caused the climate to change and we must do what ever we can to stop this.

    Religious practices- recycling, driving hybrid cars, buying only recycled good or recyclable goods, have rain water collection, solar power, push for carbon credits and anything else done because of your belief in the man made global warming fairy tale.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: The world would be better with no religion at all. Agree/disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again religion does not have to require the belief in a deity in order for it to be a religion. Specific religions however may require that you actually believe in a deity seeing how religion is a group of people adhering to a certain set of beliefs and practices and the belief of a deity is party of that belief and practices. Some religious do not require the belief in a deity. For example -

    Man made global warming fairy tale religion

    Religious Belief- Humans caused the climate to change and we must do what ever we can to stop this.

    Religious practices- recycling, driving hybrid cars, buying only recycled good or recyclable goods, have rain water collection, solar power, push for carbon credits and anything else done because of your belief in the man made global warming fairy tale.
    Except it's not a fairy tale and this is a load of horse ****

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