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What Best describes the United States?

What Best describes the United States?

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pbrauer

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Republic

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Constitutionally limiteddemocratic republic.

Swiss cheese (other)
 
I vote other: Social Democracy

I WISH we were a Constitutional Republic but... times chage
 
In theory, a Constitionally limited democratic republic.

Specifically, a Republic where government powers are limited through Constitutional means, and where the governing representatives are elected in a democratic manner.


In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
 
Goshin said:
In theory, a Constitionally limited democratic republic.

Specifically, a Republic where government powers are limited through Constitutional means, and where the governing representatives are elected in a democratic manner.


In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
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I don't think this could have been put better.
 
Goshin said:
In theory, a Constitionally limited democratic republic.

Specifically, a Republic where government powers are limited through Constitutional means, and where the governing representatives are elected in a democratic manner.

In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
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Who are they and how so? If you mean politically maybe... but in the private sector? Most wealth is new money.
 
I said that it was a Republic. Unfortunately, I cannot call it what is supposed to be... a constitutionally limited democratic republic. It hasn't been that in my lifetime.
 
I don't get hung up on labels.
 
An oligarchical constitutionally limited democratic republic.

It is a system where a large portion of the citizen voters are so lazy in their exercise of voter franchise that they allow the elite, through their use of money, to decide that a narrow field of approved candidates shall rule.
 
Lachean said:
... Most wealth is new money.
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Most new traceable income is going to people that haven’t inherited it. The old wealth is much less visible and the income it generates is less visible too. So where did you get your information?
 
Dezaad said:
An oligarchical constitutionally limited democratic republic.

It is a system where a large portion of the citizen voters are so lazy in their exercise of voter franchise that they allow the elite, through their use of money, to decide that a narrow field of approved candidates shall rule.
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Tell it, Dezaad! I'd give you two likes if I could. Your response is bang on.
 
Dezaad said:
An oligarchical constitutionally limited democratic republic.

It is a system where a large portion of the citizen voters are so lazy in their exercise of voter franchise that they allow the elite, through their use of money, to decide that a narrow field of approved candidates shall rule.
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I see our electorate/political FUBAR a little different than your comment but see our views connected:

"A long time as passed since “We The People” decided to hand over our collective credit card to the United States Government to be used to recklessly create and accumulate debts for goods and services far beyond our credit limit and ability to repay. Sadly, we continue to allow such behaviors despite knowing that the government’s objective is to protect its own power base (including the power of special interest that fill their coffers with gold, frankincense, and myrrh) and it ongoing quest to proliferate its size." ~~~~

We just can't stop ourselves from handing over our power to the government.
 
Goshin said:
In theory, a Constitionally limited democratic republic.

Specifically, a Republic where government powers are limited through Constitutional means, and where the governing representatives are elected in a democratic manner.


In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
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I agree with this assessment. I would add that we are somewhat a corporatocracy - which also falls under financial elitism.
 
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arriving with little more than a dream
and soon living well, having bootstrapped a successful small business
 
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An oligarchical constitutionally limited democratic republic.

It is a system where a large portion of the citizen voters are so lazy in their exercise of voter franchise that they allow the elite, through their use of money, to decide that a narrow field of approved candidates shall rule.
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The candidates are approved before the anyone votes, so this is quite a silly and contradictory argument to make.
 
We are a Republic
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The candidates are approved before the anyone votes, so this is quite a silly and contradictory argument to make.
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Our system is in a kind of contradiction to itself, so it is unsurprising that a person has made the silly mistake that it is I who came up with the contradiction. But I am merely pointing it out.

In effect, we have ignorantly acquiesced to an oligarchy. But we do retain the power to dislodge it, through the mechanism of the legal structure of our democratic republic. It would take a lot of work, and we would have to convince a majority that it was necessary and worthwhile, but the power is legally available. In the absence of this effort, we have the rulers we deserve.
 
pbrauer said:

Republic

Democracy

Constitutionally limiteddemocratic republic.

Swiss cheese (other)
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We're more on line with an oligarchy, actually.

Though that's not how things are suppose to be run around here - that's the nature of the beast.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Most new traceable income is going to people that haven’t inherited it. The old wealth is much less visible and the income it generates is less visible too. So where did you get your information?
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Forbes

Where did you get your claim?
 
Oligarch-Democratic-Republic.
 
What Best describes the United States?
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The baddest mothu****er on the block. We kick ass and take names. We got the hottest babes, the hunkiest dudes, and the most kick ass music. Every one wants to be like us.

America, **** yeah!
 
Redress said:
The baddest mothu****er on the block. We kick ass and take names. We got the hottest babes, the hunkiest dudes, and the most kick ass music. Every one wants to be like us.

America, **** yeah!
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I knew there was some reason I like you. :lol:
 
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