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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Most new traceable income is going to people that haven’t inherited it. The old wealth is much less visible and the income it generates is less visible too. So where did you get your information?
    Forbes

    Where did you get your claim?
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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Oligarch-Democratic-Republic.


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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    What Best describes the United States?
    The baddest mothu****er on the block. We kick ass and take names. We got the hottest babes, the hunkiest dudes, and the most kick ass music. Every one wants to be like us.

    America, **** yeah!
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    A nation of nations.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The baddest mothu****er on the block. We kick ass and take names. We got the hottest babes, the hunkiest dudes, and the most kick ass music. Every one wants to be like us.

    America, **** yeah!

    I knew there was some reason I like you.

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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
    This be the truth. We're closing in on a true aristocracy.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad
    In effect, we have ignorantly acquiesced to an oligarchy. But we do retain the power to dislodge it, through the mechanism of the legal structure of our democratic republic.
    The reason that you're wrong is in my last post. The candidates are approved before anyone votes. You can't significantly change anything through the ballot box in national elections.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Forbes

    Where did you get your claim?
    I had posted:
    Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then
    Most new traceable income is going to people that haven’t inherited it. The old wealth is much less visible and the income it generates is less visible too. So where did you get your information?

    Lachean sent me to Forbes. Thanks. I’ll use it as part of my answer. Forbes sent me to this information:

    In 1957 Fortune magazine developed a list of the seventy-six wealthiest Americans
    The man with the greatest impact on the list was arguably Andrew W. Mellon, who had been dead for 20 years: the second category, covering the second to eighth richest individuals, included his son, daughter, niece and nephew. The list also included seven members of the Rockefeller family, five members of the Ford family, four members of the Du Pont family (and a non-family DuPont executive), and four General Motors executives.
    Here are more: Mrs. Mellon Bruce (inherited), Paul Mellon (inherited), Richard King Mellon (inherited), John D. Rockefeller Jr. (inherited), Mrs. Frederick Guest formerly Amy Phipps (inherited), Irénée du Pont (inherited), William du Pont, Jr. (inherited), Doris Duke (inherited), Mrs. Alfred I. du Pont (inherited), Mrs. Edsel Ford (inherited), Amory Houghton (inherited)

    And, some of my 'claims' come from my own observations. But here are a couple observations. We are not what I'd call wealthy, but we have our money managed and could have it invested out of the country. Or, if we inherited a bunch like the above the earnings would disappear, also the principle. One of many neat ways money has and is moved offshore where it is no longer traceable is with the sale of the company logo to a foreign company. The foreign company can be wholly owned by the founders of the original company. The foreign company charges for the use of the logo and the only thing that shows up here is an obfuscating entry in the books.

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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In practice we're not far from an Oligarchy, in that the real movers-and-shakers are an elite club that's hard to get into, and a plutocracy where those with the money dominate the political scene.
    For once, we're in near total agreement.

    As John Dewey observed; 'Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business.'
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    Re: What Best describes the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The baddest mothu****er on the block. We kick ass and take names. We got the hottest babes, the hunkiest dudes, and the most kick ass music. Every one wants to be like us.

    America, **** yeah!
    Please show this side of you more often in your post! Love this
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