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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Which is the most "intelligent" philosophy?

    Intelligent means "based in a reasonable application of one's knowledge and understanding of reality".

    I ask this because I've been in and seen conversations with atheists and theists who treat their opposites as completely stupid. I genuinely want to know which one of the three people think is more intelligent and why. Other arguments are encouraged as well.

    I personally think they're all equally intelligent.
    They are the same, it is very subjective.
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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Just adding some people seem to think "rational" is somehow equal to "intelligence" and they are not at all the same thing. Someone can be rational and still be as dumb as a box of rocks. Someone can be irrational and still be very intelligent.

    I am a theist and I am just as intelligent and rational as anyone here.
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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    I don't understand how atheists can claim they know God doesn't exist. They ask God believers where the proof is, yet provide no proof that God does not exist.

    A few pieces of proof in my eyes that God exists is that I exist... I have a consciousness... my body is insanely complex... and the world is perfectly balanced to support life.


    But personally I feel agnostic people are more intelligent when it comes to the subject of the existence of God. At least they're honest enough to say "I really don't know". Because no one really knows...
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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    An atheist does not have faith a god exists. Theism requires faith. Atheists do not have that faith.
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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I don't understand how atheists can claim they know God doesn't exist. They ask God believers where the proof is, yet provide no proof that God does not exist.

    A few pieces of proof in my eyes that God exists is that I exist... I have a consciousness... my body is insanely complex... and the world is perfectly balanced to support life.

    But personally I feel agnostic people are more intelligent when it comes to the subject of the existence of God. At least they're honest enough to say "I really don't know". Because no one really knows...
    Good post. But don't agnostics say "It can't be known?" I don't know.

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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    I've known brilliant believers and boneheaded atheists, and vice versa. Intelligence and faith are not incompatible.

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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Just adding some people seem to think "rational" is somehow equal to "intelligence" and they are not at all the same thing. Someone can be rational and still be as dumb as a box of rocks. Someone can be irrational and still be very intelligent.

    I am a theist and I am just as intelligent and rational as anyone here.
    Well...that's a pretty wide spectrum, now isn't it?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    If people would read the arguments atheists are posting, they would know the answer.

    The answer, once again, is that you've made a completely false assumption. Atheists do not claim god does not exist. Atheism is a lack of belief, not a belief in absence.

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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    If people would read the arguments atheists are posting, they would know the answer.

    The answer, once again, is that you've made a completely false assumption. Atheists do not claim god does not exist. Atheism is a lack of belief, not a belief in absence.
    I think we've been through this before. The dictionary (as well as the etymology) say otherwise. I would characterize the former as simply a "nonbeliever."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Atheism, Agnosticism and Theism

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think we've been through this before. The dictionary (as well as the etymology) say otherwise. I would characterize the former as simply a "nonbeliever."
    Definitions of the term "Atheism"

    Most of the North American public define an "Atheist" is a person who believes that no deity exists: neither a God, nor a Goddess, nor a pantheon of Gods and Goddesses. This definition is reflected in American dictionaries -- not just because most publishers are Christian, but because it is the purpose of dictionaries to follow the public's word usage. Some individuals who consider themselves Atheists mesh well with that definition. But they may be in the minority. Many, perhaps most, Atheists simply have no belief about deity. For them, Atheism is not disbelief in a deity or deities; it is simply a lack of belief in any of them.
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