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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The Arabs only want TWO things: Islamic theocracy and BLOOD.
    Seriously man...you GOTS to be a joke.

    Anyways, I think Bush in his own little way helped the middle east but in the very very long run. In the short term he made it a worse place and he and his policies which are now many of Obama's help create more hatred towards us. That said, I think the invasion of Iraqi and Afghanistan to reform them made a lot of countries nervous, and that with the combination of Wikileaks information, Al-Jazeera, Facebook, and Twitter helped create this surge of people rising up in these countries.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The Arabs only want TWO things: Islamic theocracy and BLOOD.
    No... Not Blood.... Anything but Blooooooooood!
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    No. First of all, Iraq is not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination. It's an unstable basket case where elections occasionally occur. Second of all, regardless of Iraq's status as a democracy, who the hell would look at the conditions in Iraq and think "that's the country we should be emulating"? Least of all the people of Tunisia who started this, who are far better off than Iraqis.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No. When it comes to the actions of the protesters in Tunisia, I highly doubt that they took the events going on in Iraq more into account than the events that were going on in their own country. The Arab Spring was pretty much spontaneous. I believe there was a domino effect, but it started in Tunisia, not Iraq.

    I believe that both people who say that Bush destabilized the region by going into Iraq, and people who say that Iraqi elections inspired the Arab Spring, are incorrect. Social unrest, being fed up with dictatorships, food prices going through the roof, high unemployment, the use of social media, all of these factors contributed way more to the bubble bursting than what was happening in Iraq.
    But you don't think that people in Tunisia, Egypt and other countries, when looking at their own problems, they also considered that the people in Iraq could also choose their own leaders and though that system is imperfect, they have far more recourse than we do to protest their situation?

    I personally believe that watching Iraqis voting combined with their own problems caused by the lack of such rights as well as growing global issues, including food prices, combined to bring this about.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The notion that there is a democracy in Iraq is laughable. The two main parties are composed of the Shia pro-Iranian, pro-Moullah Dawa and the Shia INM parading itself as a secular party. Iraqi politics are a game of Which Shia Can Stay In Power This Week.
    well, when you consider that Iraq is mostly Shi'a, what is undemocratic about that?

    I didn't say Iraq was a perfect democracy, but the people there actually DO have the franchise and a choice, which is something no other Arab state (except for Lebanon) could truly say.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. First of all, Iraq is not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination. It's an unstable basket case where elections occasionally occur. Second of all, regardless of Iraq's status as a democracy, who the hell would look at the conditions in Iraq and think "that's the country we should be emulating"? Least of all the people of Tunisia who started this, who are far better off than Iraqis.
    Considering what they have to transition from, why would anybody expect them to be stable at this point in a young democracy? Sometimes the on-demand attitude of everybody regarding geo-politics astounds me.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No... Not Blood.... Anything but Blooooooooood!
    Then again, the Red Cross also wants blood... what is so bad about wanting blood?
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But you don't think that people in Tunisia, Egypt and other countries, when looking at their own problems, they also considered that the people in Iraq could also choose their own leaders and though that system is imperfect, they have far more recourse than we do to protest their situation?

    I personally believe that watching Iraqis voting combined with their own problems caused by the lack of such rights as well as growing global issues, including food prices, combined to bring this about.
    Why Iraqis

    Why not Georgians, Ukrainians etc who undertook very similar actions to get rid of rather undemocratic governments
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Read the question and answer.

    Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring of 2011?

    Explain...
    Well - expound on what you mean by "Arab Spring" first and then I'll form an opinion to present to you. . . I've heard that RE many different things.
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    Re: Do you believe democratic elections in Iraq were a harbringer of the Arab Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then again, the Red Cross also wants blood... what is so bad about wanting blood?
    They actually won't take my blood. They said it has too much Yankee hatred in it.
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