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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The question being asked is "If it was Nazi Germany all over again, America should" In retrospect we know what happened in Nazi Germany. I understand that we did not know the holocaust was taking place when the US entered the war. Again what is the question being asked here apdst?
    Depends on if we're using hindsight. Hindsight being 20/20, of course we would intervene on a situation the likes of which took place from '38-45. But, how can we know? We don't; we can only use past history as an indicator of what can happen, when a rogue regime goes unchallenged. It's the reason that the U.S. has become involved in every little chicken**** war since 1945, so as to prevent another scenario like the Nazis and Imperial Japan. Only difference, is nowadays, people insist that we should mind our own business, yet history tells a different story. We were purdy much minding our own business in the 30's and look what that got us.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    They only murdered six million Jews because that's where the Allies stopped them. I would have allowed them to murder a lot more, just like we allowed the Hutus to murder a million Tutsis. I would have let them murder all of the Jews if it would have led to the early defeat of the Soviet Union and our unopposed supremacy over the entire planet.



    You think that state of affairs would have been sustainable?



    We could have prevented that. Patton was right.



    And when foreigners decide to assassinate our President, for the same reason?
    i'm 1/2 jewish and i call bull$h!t on the numbers. i mean, how long were auschwitz and treblinka even operational?
    does anyone even comprehend the number of bodies per day during that short period that these institutions would've
    had to churn out? 6 million is a physical impossibility with the limited operations within these camps.
    i'm not denying that the nazis killed jews...i'm just saying that 6 million is totally an off the charts impossibility.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    They only murdered six million Jews because that's where the Allies stopped them. I would have allowed them to murder a lot more, just like we allowed the Hutus to murder a million Tutsis. I would have let them murder all of the Jews if it would have led to the early defeat of the Soviet Union and our unopposed supremacy over the entire planet.
    Yeah but, if the Nazis hadn't consumed so much time and resources killing Jews, they would have had a better chance of defeating the Soviets.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    i'm 1/2 jewish and i call bull$h!t on the numbers. i mean, how long were auschwitz and treblinka even operational?
    does anyone even comprehend the number of bodies per day during that short period that these institutions would've
    had to churn out? 6 million is a physical impossibility with the limited operations within these camps.
    i'm not denying that the nazis killed jews...i'm just saying that 6 million is totally an off the charts impossibility.

    We know, in detail, how they struggled to make the death camps as industrially-efficient as possible. I don't think it is at all impossible.

    Do you have any supporting evidence for this assertion at all?

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    i'm 1/2 jewish and i call bull$h!t on the numbers. i mean, how long were auschwitz and treblinka even operational?
    does anyone even comprehend the number of bodies per day during that short period that these institutions would've
    had to churn out? 6 million is a physical impossibility with the limited operations within these camps.
    i'm not denying that the nazis killed jews...i'm just saying that 6 million is totally an off the charts impossibility.
    1) The camps weren't the only places that the Nazis killed people. The Einsatzgruppen probably killed more people than the camps did.

    2) The camps and the Einsatzgruppen weren't restricted to just killing Jews. They killed all, "undesirables", which is where the 6 million figure comes from.

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    I don't really care about the exact numbers. Once you get past six digits or so, it's just statistics.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1) The camps weren't the only places that the Nazis killed people. The Einsatzgruppen probably killed more people than the camps did.

    2) The camps and the Einsatzgruppen weren't restricted to just killing Jews. They killed all, "undesirables", which is where the 6 million figure comes from.
    yes...i know. the nazis were rounding up catholics the same as they were jews. and communists.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    yes...i know. the nazis were rounding up catholics the same as they were jews. and communists.
    and gays and gypsies.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    and gays and gypsies.
    And special needs people.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I don't really care about the exact numbers. Once you get past six digits or so, it's just statistics.
    That's what Stalin said.

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