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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Spot on! I can't "like" this posting enough!

    I'd just like to add... the socialists did not just fight the fascists in the Spanish civil war. In Germany, the socialists of the Social Democratic Party were even the fathers of the 1919 Constitution and the republic, the strongest defenders of the republican system against commies, monarchists and Nazis alike, and the only party voting against Hitler's Enabling Act in 1933.

    If there is one German party that can truly claim to have fought and died for freedom, republicanism and democracy, it's the (then) socialists of the SPD (they dropped Marxism in 1959 and became a mainstream center-left party later).
    And yet the socialism continued. German thinkers led the way in resolving socialism's problems in the 1930s. The vast majority of Germans completely supported Herr Hitler's national socialism. And now you have other enormous problems don't you? My wife's hometown of Weurzburg looks like any Islamic republic these days. When we left Germany the last time in the 1980s is was still European.

    You have not crashed yet but you have the same sickness as the rest of Europe.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    They were also admired for their socialist thought in the 1930s by all of the usual suspects in England and the US. Their socialism led to national socialism by the mid-to-late 1930s.

    Where are we today? Who will intervene? How is the fascism of Mussolini's Italy any different than our fascism? How is the National socialist socialism of Germany any different from our socialism today?

    Our federal government is now the greatest threat to our freedom. How do we overcome it as we overcame NAZI Germany's socialism?
    That revolution will have to come from within.
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    Re: If

    Let Anonymous handle it.

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    Re: If

    The direct philosophical descendants of Nazism are Islamists, albeit having admixed the Nazi ideology with Islam to create a hybrid. Should we fight them? Yes. Tooth and nail.

    Few people realize the connections between Islamists and Nazis, but they were collaborators in the 30s and 40s, were promised the extinction of Jews after the Nazis finished off European Jewry, and they created an enormous propaganda apparatus based upon Goebels techniques that is still in use today.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    Fascism and national socialism are the consequences of socialism. They were not enemies because they were different. They were enemies because they were competing for the same things. One could easily move from socialist to fascist to communist to Nazi as they are all the same thing in their essence.

    Obama's fascistic state has grown well beyond anything we have ever seen before here. And his socialist plans appear clear whether it is nationalizing the student loan programs, large chunks of the financial industries or creating a mess of medicine that will lead to a socialist, government run, single payer, tyrannical medical system. What do we do about it? The same kinds of people in both political parties who adored German socialists, and Russian socialists also adore Obama's fascists and socialists.
    Nothing says "fascist" like the government taking over student loans. Hitler may have committed the holocaust and started WW2, but it was that damned student loan program that really made him a monster. Do you really believe that melodramatic bull****? Are you incapable of handling economic policy simply by discussing its economic impact rather than devolving into hysterics?

    There is a trend towards Fascism in America, but doesn't involve any of the nonsense you mentioned. Rather its our governments willingness to spy upon, imprison, torture and kill even its own citizens. You don't need ridiculous hyperbole to compare those kind of actions with the Nazi's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Nothing says "fascist" like the government taking over student loans.
    That would be socialist, actually. Do you understand that fascism is just a tactic?
    Hitler may have committed the holocaust and started WW2, but it was that damned student loan program that really made him a monster. Do you really believe that melodramatic bull****? Are you incapable of handling economic policy simply by discussing its economic impact rather than devolving into hysterics?
    I am doing just fine. You, on the other hand are failing.

    There is a trend towards Fascism in America, but doesn't involve any of the nonsense you mentioned. Rather its our governments willingness to spy upon, imprison, torture and kill even its own citizens. You don't need ridiculous hyperbole to compare those kind of actions with the Nazi's.
    Fascism may include those crimes. I am comfortable accepting that the same government that controls nearly every facet of business through the enormous regulatory state is also quite willing to coerce, bully and even murder its own citizens. It is not a trend toward fascism. We are already there.

    The National Socialism of Hitler's Germany was socialism. Mussolini's Italy suffered under fascism. Hitler's Germany had its share of what we would call crony capitalism today. It is corruption and it is corporatism. The CEO of General Electric could probably tell us a thing or two about the link between corporatism and tyranny.

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