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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Exactly... thus we were losing on both fronts, pretty terribly on each but the Americans themselves were getting wiped in the east.
    That goes to show what this nation can do when people in this nation begin to pull together, doesn't it? Maybe we could meet some of the challenges we face today that way.

    I know it seems like a radical suggestion, but pulling together instead of pointing fingers and playing partisan games, as we're doing now, worked before.
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    Re: If

    The people in power doing this should be shot to death. Immediately.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That goes to show what this nation can do when people in this nation begin to pull together, doesn't it? Maybe we could meet some of the challenges we face today that way.

    I know it seems like a radical suggestion, but pulling together instead of pointing fingers and playing partisan games, as we're doing now, worked before.
    It really is. Pulling together and uniting us really does make a difference. There was thought that would happen after Bin Laden died for about two days.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Well, there was the fact that we were "lending" Britain war materiel (again) and blockading the Japanese oil supply. We were about as neutral as a Chicago election board.
    Small correction needed here. The USA wasn't 'lending' Great Britain anything. You were leasing materiel - big difference, as we only finished paying off lend-lease debts a few years ago.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Small correction needed here. The USA wasn't 'lending' Great Britain anything. You were leasing materiel - big difference, as we only finished paying off lend-lease debts a few years ago.
    My apologies. I stand corrected. Reckon that balances out with all the trade our corporations were doing with Germany, so that made us neutral enough in Europe.

    Doesn't change the oil embargo, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    My apologies. I stand corrected. Reckon that balances out with all the trade our corporations were doing with Germany, so that made us neutral enough in Europe.

    Doesn't change the oil embargo, though.
    Oh of course. Americans loved the Nazis. You can find Charles Lindbergh doing his nazi salute:

    Henry Ford, Mr. Captain of Industry and his "International Jew - The World's Problem" in every single new ford's glove compartment.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Small correction needed here. The USA wasn't 'lending' Great Britain anything. You were leasing materiel - big difference, as we only finished paying off lend-lease debts a few years ago.
    Lend, lease,...whatever. The U.S provoked Germany by sending weapons and supplies to Britain and the USSR. This may have been understandable when it was Britain vs. Germany, but after the Soviets got involved, the U.S should have butted out. Britain should have made peace with Germany in 1940, and the Soviet Union should have fallen. We had no business sticking our noses in it. Hitler didn't want a war with the U.S, but he was basically given no choice. Listen to this speech. He explains the justification for declaring war on America, as America claimed to be a neutral power, but didn't act as such.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Lend, lease,...whatever. The U.S provoked Germany by sending weapons and supplies to Britain and the USSR. This may have been understandable when it was Britain vs. Germany, but after the Soviets got involved, the U.S should have butted out. Britain should have made peace with Germany in 1940, and the Soviet Union should have fallen. We had no business sticking our noses in it. Hitler didn't want a war with the U.S, but he was basically given no choice. Listen to this speech. He explains the justification for declaring war on America, as America claimed to be a neutral power, but didn't act as such.

    wars need a winner .and america wanted to achieve victory .
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    Re: If

    I would "specifically" BUTT OUT in regards to all the internal political actions occurring within Germany prior to 1938.

    I might BUTT IN during the anschluss of Austria if there wasn't a majority of Austrians supporting unification by plebiscite.

    I would BUTT IN when they attempted to partition Czechoslovakia.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Lend, lease,...whatever. The U.S provoked Germany by sending weapons and supplies to Britain and the USSR.
    I take your point, and I appreciate the fact that the Roosevelt administration (if not all Americans) was more supportive of Britain than Germany.

    However, language is important, insofar as imparting precise information, and shades of meaning, are concerned, and there is a world of difference betwen the acts of lending and leasing.

    E.g: If my neighbour's child is ill and he is without the means to transport him to hospital, I will gladly lend him my car. If I lease him my car, it becomes a commercial transaction and the act is dependent upon his having the money to pay the lease charge. In both cases, the child gets the medical treatment needed, but the altruistic nature of the loan is in stark contrast to the venal, and conditional, nature of the lease.
    I hate the idea of causes, and if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. E.M. Forster

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