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    We had photos of the camps dating very back early into the war. Couriers from Warsaw followed the trains to Treblinka, and smelt the dead bodies. They wrote to Churchill with the location and all, and it was ignored.

    Breckinridge Long, US assistant state secretary, denied entry to Jews. We did not take more than a few hundred Jews during the Evian conference. Explain to me why we are better than them. It only takes a few good men doing nothing for evil to triumph.

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    There are living eye witnesses still today to the death camps in Germany, yet still some people insist on denying the holocaust. It just amazes me how people will believe what they want to believe regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I think Jon Stewart said it well: "You can't counter irrationality with empirical evidence."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There are living eye witnesses still today to the death camps in Germany, yet still some people insist on denying the holocaust. It just amazes me how people will believe what they want to believe regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I think Jon Stewart said it well: "You can't counter irrationality with empirical evidence."
    i've yet to see anyone in this thread deny the holocaust. WWII had the allied holocaust and the axis holocaust.
    of course the victor of WWII was able to dictate the numbers....but even i know there was a jewish holocaust or 2
    during WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    -- which is EXACTLY why the numbers of jews slaughtered by the nazis was exaggerated. it took a number like 6 million to create a more benevolent image of the jew-murdering allied powers.
    The numbers are well documented, historians and witnesses attest to the facts yet you have some secret knowledge and cannot back your theory up.

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    -- and you all keep telling this lie that i'm a "holocaust denier" even though i have acknowledged the holocaust many times
    in this thread. so keep up the dishonesty. i'm not buying into it though.
    Holocaust denial isn't simply saying it didn't happen, many notable deniers also acknowledge that a mass extermination took place. Many either try to lower the numbers as they wish to present the real numbers as an exaggeration, or place the blame elsewhere.

    One of the most notable anti-Semitic propaganda movements to develop over the past two decades has been the organized effort to deny or minimize the established history of Nazi genocide against the Jews. Source
    Look in a mirror after you read the link.

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    russia was slaughtering jews by the thousands, itself. so it seems to me the allies were committing a holocaust all their own
    One of the allied powers yes, all of the allies - no. Stalin wasn't just responsible for the deaths of approx 2 million jews and it is documented that he was anti-semitic but he also was responsible for the deaths of approx 30 million of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    i've yet to see anyone in this thread deny the holocaust. WWII had the allied holocaust and the axis holocaust.
    of course the victor of WWII was able to dictate the numbers....but even i know there was a jewish holocaust or 2
    during WWII.
    Do you have as big of a problem with the 6 million Gypsies, gays, etc as you have a problem with the 6 million Jews? All you mention is Jews Jews Jews...

    In the face of evidence... NOT HAVING EVIDENCE is one of the worst debating techniques known to man. But, as brilliant as you are, you have dodged that issue with the classic, "I don't need evidence, since the victors had an agenda and could dictate the numbers even though I have no evidence" stance... Brilliantly played sir. You are a mental giant. You sir, are without a doubt one of the best debators at Debate Politics. I would like to shake your hand and bath in your glory.
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    We didn't get involved in World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed. Then we wiped Germany and Japan out. Getting us involved in the war turned out to be a mistake on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    We didn't get involved in World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed. Then we wiped Germany and Japan out. Getting us involved in the war turned out to be a mistake on their part.
    That's really bad history on your part. We were losing the war on both fronts until 43 really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    We didn't get involved in World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed. Then we wiped Germany and Japan out. Getting us involved in the war turned out to be a mistake on their part.
    Well, there was the fact that we were "lending" Britain war materiel (again) and blockading the Japanese oil supply. We were about as neutral as a Chicago election board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    That's really bad history on your part. We were losing the war on both fronts until 43 really.
    We didn't have much of an army at the beginning of the war. It took a while to start producing war machinery and train soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We didn't have much of an army at the beginning of the war. It took a while to start producing war machinery and train soldiers.
    Exactly... thus we were losing on both fronts, pretty terribly on each but the Americans themselves were getting wiped in the east.

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