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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Nope. If I'd lost family in the Holocaust, I'd want revenge against the people responsible. Wouldn't make me give a damn about other victims. Why would it?

    I love how people keep assuming that I'd have more empathy if only I'd been victimized more.



    Expecting any different ain't going to make it happen.
    But you just went past-tense on me. And of course if your family sucks, you're not going to care if they are in imminent danger. I'm talking if you knew they were in danger - you'd just go "ah, well; your time was up"?

    Everybody's different, so I don't know if you're incapable of doing a paradigm shift, or what. I'm not emotionally invested in what comes out of your mouth so the bolded bit is a bit presumptuous on your part.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So America should not have interceded in Nazi Germany? There's probably a fair amount of people who feel the same. Does it really boil down to "we don't have a dog in the fight", regardless of what atrocities are taking place?
    Thats such a hard one. As human beings I feel we have an obligation to step up to the plate when we see genocide against humanity. But I dont feel its only the U.S.'s responsibility to do that. I think the entire world needs to step up and say....right is right, wrong is wrong. unfortunately that doesnt happen. I do feel we have an obligation to do something, but we as a country cant fight everyones battles, we just cant. I dont know.....

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    Does anyone today believe that Nazi Germany was not a threat to the United States? Really?
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    Does anyone today believe that Nazi Germany was not a threat to the United States?
    How were they a threat? Please explain.

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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Aren't those the same people you say we should have been supporting when you say we were fighting on the wrong side in WWII?
    Yes. And if my family had been Jewish, I would have supported American intervention to stop the Holocaust; if I were Tutsi, I would have supported American intervention in Rwanda. Being a Jew wouldn't change my feelings about Rwanda, and being a Tutsi wouldn't change my feelings about the Holocaust.

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    But you just went past-tense on me. And of course if your family sucks, you're not going to care if they are in imminent danger. I'm talking if you knew they were in danger - you'd just go "ah, well; your time was up"?
    I may have misunderstood you, and if I have I apologize. I thought you were implying that if I'd lost people in the Holocaust, I'd have a different opinion about genocide in general-- that my position was only so much ignorance and white privilege. I seem to get that a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why would I accuse you of racism? Unless you are saying what you are saying for racist reasons, I would only claim that you are ignorant. Are you a member of Storm Front? I assume that you are only questioning the numbers and not if the Holocaust actually took place, right?

    Look, I stick to facts and logic, neither of which you have offered here. You are basically saying, "Damn, that is a lot of people to kill in a short amount of time with such small facilities. It has to be false. Oh, you think that it is true, well, I will offer no proof and call you insane instead, so there!"

    Refute these guys with some facts, and then I will provide some to counter your claims.

    No serious historian questions that the Holocaust took place. — Governing council, unanimous declaration, American Historical Association

    SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to publicly speak about what he witnessed at Auschwitz, and denounce Holocaust deniers,[159] stating: I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there

    SS-Untersturmführer Hans Münch considered the facts of Auschwitz "so firmly determined that one cannot have any doubt at all", and described those who negate what happened at the camp as "malevolent" people who have "personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence."

    SS-Oberscharführer Josef Klehr has said that anyone who maintains that nobody was gassed at Auschwitz must be "crazy or on the wrong"

    Provide evidence of your claims or just admit that it is just an opinion. You do realize that this is a debate forum?
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    Moderator's Warning:
    IfJust a friendly reminder, personal attacks are still not allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
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    argh. ok.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    How were they a threat? Please explain.
    They were exterminating Jews and minorities both of which America had/has plenty of.
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    Re: If

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    They were exterminating Jews and minorities both of which America had/has plenty of.
    Not to mention the taking over the world project.
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