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    Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I am asking this question because of an ongoing discussion .

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    put a poll question up dude and I will vote yes

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    put a poll question up dude and I will vote yes
    Why don't you wait for it to be put up? You should know by now that the thread posts while the question is being created... Patience my friend, patience...
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I see no real gain from doing so.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Yes, but with provisions to protect rights of non-English speakers
    At first glance this sounds reasonable enough to me...but then I have to ask what's the point of declaring English the official language at all. I think that people should be allowed to vote, be educated, and be read their Miranda rights in their native languages, and I don't really see any other implications of what declaring English the official language would actually do. So I'm strongly leaning toward "no."
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    1) ballots should be in english only

    2) miranda warnings-English only

    3) businesses-should have a right to cater to their customer pool and if that means spanish or vietnamese or chinese or french so be it

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I voted no. If you forced millions of immigrants to learn English, they would certainly learn it, but they would not have a high proficiency level. That takes years of wilful practice. In the mean time, having concise info available in their mother tongue keeps things less complicated and reduces errors.

    Our ancestors who helped form this country came from all over. The people who built our cities were mainly immigrants. Maintaining flexibility is what allowed all that to happen.

    An American who can't speak English is still an American.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I don't feel strongly either way, but leaning slightly towards yes.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    The entire idea of making English a national language is rather short sighted and anal, when something approaching 25% of Americans are functionally illiterate. If the xenophobic ultra-right insists on social engineering I wish they'd actually focus on something worthy such as literacy.










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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I voted no. If you forced millions of immigrants to learn English, they would certainly learn it, but they would not have a high proficiency level. That takes years of wilful practice. In the mean time, having concise info available in their mother tongue keeps things less complicated and reduces errors.
    Making it part of what you need to become a citizen doesn't mean they have to be highly proficient in it. Just that they can get the basics done.

    Our ancestors who helped form this country came from all over. The people who built our cities were mainly immigrants. Maintaining flexibility is what allowed all that to happen.
    And they tried to learn English. Many people today just don't. I have nothing wrong with flexibility but I do have a problem with telling people that live here to adjust to immigrants which seems to be the big solution these days. Well they just can't, so we should all learn Spanish. NO! I won't learn Spanish, so they don't have to learn English. I'm not the one trying to make it not being able to speak the language everyone else is speaking, they are. They should adjust, NOT me.

    An American who can't speak English is still an American.
    An American no one has any use for.

    Oh and I don't actually support making English the national language. I'm just outraged by the "lets adjust to them" attitude these days.
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