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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So we should adjust to them? I don't think its uncalled for to a call for people to adjust to the land they are moving too, but I do think its uncalled for to call for the people that live there already to adjust to people coming in.
    Did your ancestors bother learning Algonqin when they came here?
    Don't change the rules for your convenience.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    In 2011 America, in order to get a part time job, you MUST speak Spanish. This is total crap. And thats in Chicago! The middle of America. We 100% need to stop illegals getting our tax dollars for support and THEY need to get the hell out OR speak English. It is very insulting that they cant / wont. We provide them MANY benefits and they kick us in the ass. That is not honerable and should not be tolerated.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    In 2011 America, in order to get a part time job, you MUST speak Spanish. This is total crap. And thats in Chicago!
    That's not even close to true.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Did your ancestors bother learning Algonqin when they came here?
    Don't change the rules for your convenience.
    Since my ancestors weren't here at that time your little fun game is pointless.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    Are you aware of any statistics that support your claim, regarding Europeans?
    nHumanities: Half of Europeans Bilingual

    Half of Europe's Citizens Know 2 Languages

    BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Half of European citizens speak a second language, according to a European Union survey released Friday.
    The poll, conducted in June across Europe, found that tiny Luxembourg had the highest percentage of bilingual citizens, with 99 percent of those questioned saying they could master a conversation in a second language.

    Hungary had the lowest number with 29 percent of its citizens able to speak another language. Britain was second last with 30 percent.

    The survey also found that almost eight out of 10 students—ages 15- 24—can have a normal conversation in at least one foreign language.

    In the United States, by contrast, 9 percent of Americans speak both their native language and another language fluently, according to a U.S. Senate resolution designating 2005 the "Year of Foreign Language Study."

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    In 2011 America, in order to get a part time job, you MUST speak Spanish. This is total crap. And thats in Chicago! The middle of America. We 100% need to stop illegals getting our tax dollars for support and THEY need to get the hell out OR speak English. It is very insulting that they cant / wont. We provide them MANY benefits and they kick us in the ass. That is not honerable and should not be tolerated.
    We need to go after the big biz that hires these folks. They cannot be safe on jobsites if they cannot understand English work instructions and a lot of them die each year due to this. I am more mad at the places that give them work as they are commiting crimes. I will not even start on what I think about these illegal asswipes that are milking my tax dollars via having babies. ugh
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Since my ancestors weren't here at that time your little fun game is pointless.
    No, it's not. Whenever your family came here and wherever they landed, they came from someplace else.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Did your ancestors bother learning Algonqin when they came here?
    Don't change the rules for your convenience.
    Is this the new version "white guilt?" Now that people have caught on to that game in the race arena and even Chris Rock is calling people out for doing it, it's moved to the language arena instead?

    I wasn't here when European settlers did that. I had no control over that. That had nothing to do with me. And if someone wanted to take more land off the Native Americans and I could do something to prevent that I would.

    Sorry, this is just a really fallacious argument that has no bearing on reality.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    No, it's not. Whenever your family came here and wherever they landed, they came from someplace else.
    Changing the goal post is not going to save you. For one they came from England and Scotland, second what happened with Indians is not comparable. The people that settled here were not trying to be part of their tribe or join the Indians societies. All that was happening is the people that came first were creating a society on the same land and trying to deal with Indians. They had little interest in working with Indians at that time, and it wasn't until later that even become a factor, but even then they had little interest in bothering with them. They mostly just wanted them to go away and leave their new society alone. The Constitution of the country even made a point to say straight out they are a different society. Don't you even see that they were not trying to be one, that they were purposely trying to stay separate? I don't see how you can say, well you didn't, so they shouldn't. Its not a comparable situation.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Is this the new version "white guilt?" Now that people have caught on to that game in the race arena and even Chris Rock is calling people out for doing it, it's moved to the language arena instead?

    I wasn't here when European settlers did that. I had no control over that. That had nothing to do with me. And if someone wanted to take more land off the Native Americans and I could do something to prevent that I would.

    Sorry, this is just a really fallacious argument that has no bearing on reality.
    It's funny because you're the one who made it about race.

    He was pointing to the irony in demanding respect for the "native" language in a country that was built upon disrespecting the actual native languages. It's a valid point considering that people are acting like it's "American" to assimilate, when our history tells another story.

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