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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Like many other tribes,the revenue produced by the casinos is actually held "in trust" by the BIA.
    What. The. ****. Why?!

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    At one point,wasn't the language spoken by your ancestors the dominant language of their territory?
    Did they require the European settlers to speak their language?
    Did they try to assimulate as a whole?
    Learn the language of the Cherokee/Creek as a whole
    Or did they just kick your ancestors off their land like they did mine.

    And that seems to be the root of the issue isn't it.
    The fear of others doing to modern Americans what was done to the natives 200 to 300 years ago.
    It might be moot point,but was it right what was done to our ancestors?

    There is a big difference between having some ancestors that were Indian,and being half Indian.Such as myself.
    I'm wondering,did you grow up on a reservation,did you go to a government Boarding school?
    I grew up on the Wazi Ahanhan Oyaŋke (Pineridge Lakota ) "Res" in South Dakota in the '70's, I saw with my own eyes what the affects of 200-300 years have done. Try telling the poor of that region it's "moot point".
    I remember as a little kid what happened at Wounded Knee in the 70's
    I am relearning a language that was forcibly denied me as a child by our own government.

    Like I've stated before on a previous post,there is a danger of an "Official Language" being turned into a "Forced Language". and that can easilly slide into a Forced Religion,and a Forced Ideology.

    I've seen it happen.
    Verthaine just said what I was thinking, only he said it better.

    And there's a xenophobic undercurrent to a lot of this "official language" talk. I could EASILY see it turned into "forced language".

    Something else: A lot of the people who are clamoring to make English the "official" language ONLY speak English. I've noticed that a lot of people in Europe speak two or more languages, you're not considered educated there if you don't. So maybe instead of griping that everybody needs to speak English, all that energy would be better spent trying to learn a second language.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    To paraphrase my grandma " A law makes a poor shield against a bullet".

    Given the history of both my families ancestry,(and this country's) history,it is understandable why I am skeptical of Making English an Official Language.
    Last I check,the Constitution is being torn to shreds,or at least that' what I hear both the liberals and the conservatives say.
    There is absolutely no guarantee other then,"we promise to honor the treaty" to prevent wholesale abuses.

    However, for the most part, in recent decades, the autonomy seems to be largely in tact...
    Funny how you added "for the most part".
    Seems we both know about the concept of "Eminent Domain".
    The reason why the autonomy is largely still intact is because the land underneath the tribes is usually worthless.

    Once the Government,Corporation,or real estate developer decides the land is worth something,here comes the long and lengthy court battles just to preserve what little is left for the tribes.[/QUOTE]

    Nobody is wanting to mess with your tribes!


    What folks want are the people not born here to stop stealing our damn jobs and learn to speak some damn English if they gonna be sucking our tax dollars dry. It is not so damn complicated.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    What. The. ****. Why?!
    My guess is it's because the Lakotas know what's right and they won't knuckle under.
    The same reason all those other things were done to them. It's been nonstop since the 1800's.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Verthaine just said what I was thinking, only he said it better.

    And there's a xenophobic undercurrent to a lot of this "official language" talk. I could EASILY see it turned into "forced language".

    Something else: A lot of the people who are clamoring to make English the "official" language ONLY speak English. I've noticed that a lot of people in Europe speak two or more languages, you're not considered educated there if you don't. So maybe instead of griping that everybody needs to speak English, all that energy would be better spent trying to learn a second language.
    Are you aware of any statistics that support your claim, regarding Europeans?

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    In 2011 America, in order to get a part time job, you MUST speak Spanish. This is total crap. And thats in Chicago! The middle of America. We 100% need to stop illegals getting our tax dollars for support and THEY need to get the hell out OR speak English. It is very insulting that they cant / wont. We provide them MANY benefits and they kick us in the ass. That is not honerable and should not be tolerated.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I am not thinking of a reason good why no.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Something else: A lot of the people who are clamoring to make English the "official" language ONLY speak English. I've noticed that a lot of people in Europe speak two or more languages, you're not considered educated there if you don't. So maybe instead of griping that everybody needs to speak English, all that energy would be better spent trying to learn a second language.
    So we should adjust to them? I don't think its uncalled for to a call for people to adjust to the land they are moving too, but I do think its uncalled for to call for the people that live there already to adjust to people coming in.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Lutefisk? NEVAR!! But I do love pickled herring.
    Yeah, that's it. I can't stand that stuff no matter how you spell it. I had the chance to eat some picked herring one night and turned it down. So far I've been able to live with the choice.

    (All the people involved in the experiences above spoke English. No one was harmed during these experiences - except for that suffering bastard who ate an entire jar of picked herring.)










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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Verthaine just said what I was thinking, only he said it better.

    And there's a xenophobic undercurrent to a lot of this "official language" talk. I could EASILY see it turned into "forced language".

    Something else: A lot of the people who are clamoring to make English the "official" language ONLY speak English. I've noticed that a lot of people in Europe speak two or more languages, you're not considered educated there if you don't. So maybe instead of griping that everybody needs to speak English, all that energy would be better spent trying to learn a second language.
    This is already being done in our schools as you cannot graduate without passing foreign language courses and they start around 4th grade in my town. The way it is here you must pass two to be able to pass.
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