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Thread: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Just how many fracking languages are we supposed to accomodate? Shall we make all documents available in Estonian? Should road signs include Mandarin, Cantonese, Swahili and Zulu? How far do you take this?
    I grew up seeing some bilingual signs in NH, but they are not common. In Taiwan, most highway signs are bilingual, and that is managable. Any more than that, serious problems.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Just how many fracking languages are we supposed to accomodate? Shall we make all documents available in Estonian? Should road signs include Mandarin, Cantonese, Swahili and Zulu? How far do you take this?
    People should at least be able to exercise their rights (i.e. voting, fair trial) and be educated in their native language. I don't really care as much about government documents and road signs.

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    Maintaining a sense of national identity across several thousand miles of landmass, and several thousand miles of ocean in some cases, is difficult enough without the citizenry lacking a common language in which to speak with each other. Nothing makes people see others as alien moreso than not being able to communicate with them.

    Diversity is all well and good but a nation of forty-seven languages, where half the population can't even talk with the other half, is no nation. It is a shambling mess looking for a place to fall apart.
    I don't disagree that we need most people to speak the same language for national cohesion. I just question why you think that that will happen if English doesn't become the official language. We've gotten along without an official language since the beginning of this nation, and yet we haven't reached a situation where "half the population can't even talk with the other half."
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    We're a nation of immigrants. Our current laws and practices reflect that. I see no reason to change them.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Though that is often part of a joke told in foreign language departments, most people around the world can only speak and communicate in a single language.
    I don't know that. I'd like to see some statistics.










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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    People should at least be able to exercise their rights (i.e. voting, fair trial) and be educated in their native language. I don't really care as much about government documents and road signs.



    I don't disagree that we need most people to speak the same language for national cohesion. I just question why you think that that will happen if English doesn't become the official language. We've gotten along without an official language since the beginning of this nation, and yet we haven't reached a situation where "half the population can't even talk with the other half."
    For most of our history English was the de-facto national language, and if you did not speak it "tough **** amigo". It is only in recent times that we have so many people who think we should bend over backward to accomodate people who come to this country and won't learn to speak the common fracking language!

    Good lord, if I moved to France, the first thing I'd start doing is LEARN to speak FRENCH!!

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I don't know that. I'd like to see some statistics.
    Common sense should tell you that... educated people around the world can often speak two or more languages, but peasants in the countryside in most Third World countries and even lesser educated people in first world countries can generally only speak a single language.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    For most of our history English was the de-facto national language,
    And it still is. So why does it need to be the de jure national language too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    and if you did not speak it "tough **** amigo". It is only in recent times that we have so many people who think we should bend over backward to accomodate people who come to this country and won't learn to speak the common fracking language!
    This is a myth, and I'm not sure where it comes from. Immigrants to the United States have mostly spoken languages other than English (some learned English, some didn't), and their children have always assimilated and spoken English. And we HAVE "bent over backward to accommodate people" for most of our nation's history. So I'm not seeing the problem. Are we in the midst of some crisis that threatens to fragment the nation? Because most second-generation immigrants today speak English far better than they speak their parents' language (if they speak their parents' language at all).

    Good lord, if I moved to France, the first thing I'd start doing is LEARN to speak FRENCH!!
    Good for you. What does it have to do with English being the official language? What purpose does it serve, other than to discriminate against immigrants?
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    There is always the danger of the word "Official" being turned into "Forced" Language.
    Just ask a bunch of us Native Americans who grew up in reservations prior to the 1980's.
    We were forced into Government Run Boarding schools,had our hair cut(which to many tribes is sacred),our native language forbidden to be spoken,my mother's culture degrade and denigraded, and and to top it all off,forced into Christianity all in an attempt to "Americanize (i.e humanize)" us.
    That's also the same reason why I cannot speak the African language of my fathers ancestors,they were forbidden to speak it by their English speaking slave masters.
    As I pointed out in another thread,the same logic used to making English an "Official Language", i.e. the majority speaks it and has done so for a couple of hundred years,can be applied to changing the 1st Amendment to make Christianity the "Official Religion" of this country.

    And unless I get a 100 percent guarantee that the atrocities that were commited on myself and my ancestors in the attempt to "Americanize us,(and the Laws of Physic change so it can't happen) will never happen again,then I have to vote NO.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I voted no. If you forced millions of immigrants to learn English, they would certainly learn it, but they would not have a high proficiency level. That takes years of wilful practice. In the mean time, having concise info available in their mother tongue keeps things less complicated and reduces errors.

    Our ancestors who helped form this country came from all over. The people who built our cities were mainly immigrants. Maintaining flexibility is what allowed all that to happen.

    An American who can't speak English is still an American.
    Not entirely true. For example my great grandparents migrated from Germany. My great grandfathers both learned enough english before legally migrating to the US. After arriving the grandmothers also learned english.

    IMO, many of the recent (last 10-15 years) illegal or legal migrants who have come to the US have not "melted" or assimulated into the US. They want the US to be like "the old country" and take advantage of the benifits of the US. We need a common language.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    My birth father was first generation Finn American. I don't think his father ever learned English, but all his children did.

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