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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Everyone in this country ought to be required to be functionally literate in our language, just like they expect in every other country on the planet. If you go to France, they expect you to speak French. If you go to Mexico, they expect you to speak Spanish. No one is saying people cannot also speak other languages, just that they need to be conversant in the language of the land. We should not make accomodations for anyone who refuses to do so.
    My position exactly.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Everyone in this country ought to be required to be functionally literate in our language, just like they expect in every other country on the planet. If you go to France, they expect you to speak French. If you go to Mexico, they expect you to speak Spanish. No one is saying people cannot also speak other languages, just that they need to be conversant in the language of the land. We should not make accomodations for anyone who refuses to do so.
    it doesn't happen that way. People go to France all the time who don't speak french. Sorry.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's not at all what I said. I said historically, people come here not speaking the language, and it is their children who learn. This is true. Then I said, as it is a sound idea, no one should object to children learning different languages. And there is not one single thing contradictory in that.

    As for accomadations, you can't stop that. You can't write a law that forbids business from making accomidations. Iowans made English the offical language and some are still upset that companies continue to print things in Spanish. Not to mention that government still has to content with people who don't speak English, so they still have to accomodate. The law, which cost more than a few bucks, accomplished nothing. And those who don't want to hear another langauge spoken still have to.
    Oh sorry, I think I got you confused with someone else. My position is just that the government shouldn't double label everything in Spanish or whatever. Private businesses can do whatever they want.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it doesn't happen that way. People go to France all the time who don't speak french. Sorry.
    They go there, but they don't immigrate. Pretty much all countries will expect you to learn the local language if you want to become a citizen.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Oh sorry, I think I got you confused with someone else. My position is just that the government shouldn't double label everything in Spanish or whatever. Private businesses can do whatever they want.
    No worries. It happens. But, government has to content just as business does. So, no matter what people want, the problem is such that it will happen no matter if you make it the offical language or not. Iowa, i think, says everything is in English UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON FOR IT NOT TO BE. Kind of pointless.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    They go there, but they don't immigrate. Pretty much all countries will expect you to learn the local language if you want to become a citizen.
    Yeah, they do that to. Immigrants go there, like any place else, without knowing the langauge. So, they do run into folks living there who are struggling with the language,

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it doesn't happen that way. People go to France all the time who don't speak french. Sorry.
    and those people are stereotypically American tourists

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Oh sorry, I think I got you confused with someone else. My position is just that the government shouldn't double label everything in Spanish or whatever. Private businesses can do whatever they want.
    I'd agree with you, but the problem is that is will just make it harder for people to became legal citizens the right way...

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    They go there, but they don't immigrate. Pretty much all countries will expect you to learn the local language if you want to become a citizen.
    How many languages do you speak?

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    and those people are stereotypically American tourists
    Right, you were the one that was supposed to be directed at. You expect Americans to learn the language of wherever they go, but you also expect us to put everything in other languages for people who come here and don't speak English. Which is it gonna be?
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