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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Learn it or leave. If I go to live in Mexico I would be expected to learn their language, I DEMAND they "learn" ours.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    Flawed logic. Speaking the same language doesn't make people feel connected.
    in fact it does, though not nearly to the degree that speaking different languages makes them disconnected.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    They aren't going to learn it if you make it the official language. That's not going to make much of a difference.
    they will if that is what they are taught in school

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    they will if that is what they are taught in school
    We already have ESL programs... a friend of my younger son is from El salvador and he takes the ESL classes.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    the problem being that we dont' design our Spanish ESL courses to actually teach the students English - we design them to continue to qualify for extra ESL money, and the hispanic students are left stuck behind.


    [quote]This study, from the University of California–Berkeley, may be unusually blunt in its assessment of Hispanic cognitive development, but it is hardly unprecedented. A 2004 study by the California Legislative Analyst’s Office found a similar decline in Hispanic students’ ability to keep up with their peers in learning English. Children from Mandarin- and Spanish-speaking households begin kindergarten with similar levels of English proficiency, but their paths quickly diverge. The Mandarin-speaking students make continuing progress in mastering English, while the Hispanic students’ advance stalls out in the second and third grades as the demands of California’s English-proficiency test grow more difficult. Mandarin kindergartners establish oral skills in English in one year, the legislative analyst found, and by the beginning of second grade, they have begun developing a mastery of reading and writing, unlike Hispanics....

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    the problem being that we dont' design our Spanish ESL courses to actually teach the students English - we design them to continue to qualify for extra ESL money, and the hispanic students are left stuck behind.


    This study, from the University of California–Berkeley, may be unusually blunt in its assessment of Hispanic cognitive development, but it is hardly unprecedented. A 2004 study by the California Legislative Analyst’s Office found a similar decline in Hispanic students’ ability to keep up with their peers in learning English. Children from Mandarin- and Spanish-speaking households begin kindergarten with similar levels of English proficiency, but their paths quickly diverge. The Mandarin-speaking students make continuing progress in mastering English, while the Hispanic students’ advance stalls out in the second and third grades as the demands of California’s English-proficiency test grow more difficult. Mandarin kindergartners establish oral skills in English in one year, the legislative analyst found, and by the beginning of second grade, they have begun developing a mastery of reading and writing, unlike Hispanics....
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I'm actually in favor of this. If you move to our country, we shouldn't have to make accommodations for you. Can you imagine what the PC crowd would say if a bunch of Americans demanded that Mexico translate everything into English?
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sadly this is incorrect. those who cannot speak english are kept out of much of our public life, and unable to participate in American society at large. They can only exist in enclaves where they are trapped in a single socioeconomic rut. traditionally first generation immigrant waves come here, and fail to learn the language. But their kids do - and the parents hard work combined with the second generations' bilingualism causes those minority groups to begin to see success. that experience of advancement from generation to generation reinforces the American Dream, and causes immigrant populations to Buy Into our ethos even as they integrate into our society. They Become Americans. Third generation usually speaks english as a first language, and continue to advance, often becoming the first generation to attend higher schooling. now, by and large, that's not happening. this is the first immigrant wave in American history where the children and grandchildren haven't done better - and it's because they haven't learned the language.
    Uh, NO.

    The ecomomy's been circling closer and closer to the drain, in case you haven't noticed. The "American Dream" has been kaput for some time now.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    in fact it does, though not nearly to the degree that speaking different languages makes them disconnected.
    Next time your car breaks down on the side of the road and all those english-speaking people are whizzing on by, but a spanish-speaking person stops to help, think about what you said here.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I see no real gain from doing so.
    when the US played Mexico in Los Angelos a couple of weeks ago, Mexico was the "home team". there is a massive population growing within our borders exercising the rights and with the priveleges of US Citizens who do not consider themselves "American".

    do you consider that a net positive, or a net negative?

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