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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You can't give a 100% guarantee from any group of people on the planet that there is no racism or bigotry among those who support a political position. ANY political position. And it doesn't matter. It is about what is best for the United States. Unless the U.S. would like to become among the many bi/multi-lingual states with fractured identities, ethnic clashes and seperatist/irredentist movements...
    Not to mention this is guilt by association, and commits the fallacy of never analyzing the merits of such a policy, but merely the character of some of it's supporters. It's like attacking someone talking about the possible health merits of a vegetarian diet by citing the Nazi's

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Opps... may we now invoke Godwin's Law???
    Since we were talking about language and culture and genocide anyway. Nobody said "MY BOSS WON'T LET ME WEAR FLIP FLOPS MY BOSS IS HITLER!!!" :P

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Forget English, Go straight to Chinese and save the fuss in a decade or two.
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But they are still immigrants... hey, I am part Canadian First Nations myself... many Quebecois are...

    It doesn't change the fact that in order to promote national identity and cohesiveness, the U.S. needs a single national, official language... and if states (like Hawaii and Alaska) declare a second language as official for State business, that is up to them... but the official language of the Federal government ought to be English...
    How would handing down a verdict that english is the "official language" promote "national identity and cohesiveness" when so many people oppose it? And why would we even need "national identity and cohesiveness", except to oppose someone else's "national identity and cohesiveness"?

    We're humans. We live on earth. That's all the "national identity and cohesiveness" necessary.
    No "out" groups.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I am asking this question because of an ongoing discussion .

    here.

    Should English be declared the official language of the United States?
    Looking at it from a practical perspective, I think so. I see many advantages and no real disadvantage to requiring that all citizens at least have a basic skill in the language.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by stelz View Post
    How would handing down a verdict that english is the "official language" promote "national identity and cohesiveness" when so many people oppose it? And why would we even need "national identity and cohesiveness", except to oppose someone else's "national identity and cohesiveness"?
    And how stable and cohesive are most nations that are bi/multi-lingual???
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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Please. Every time someone says they support making English an official language in America, someone says they just hate Mexicans. It's been racial for pretty much the whole debate.
    except no one said that...

    No, it isn't. We live in a different time, with a different culture, and everyone who perpetrated those things has been dead for a very long time. What happened hundreds of years ago is irrelevant to the situation now, and irrelevant to the discussion of what is the best course of action now.
    Nope, a nation's history is never irrelevant, particularly when members of that nation try to characterize other people as "unAmerican" while doing perfectly American things.

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I voted an unequivocal YES.


    From 1880 to 1924, around two million Jews moved to the United States, mostly seeking better opportunity in America and fleeing the pogroms of the Russian Empire. After 1934 Jews, along with any other above-quota immigration, were usually denied access to the United States.

    Congress passed a literacy requirement in 1917 to curb the influx of low-skilled immigrants from entering the country.

    Congress passed the Emergency Quota Act in 1921, followed by the Immigration Act of 1924, which was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans who had begun to enter the country in large numbers beginning in the 1890s. This ultimately resulted in precluding the all "extra" immigration to the United States, including Jews fleeing Nazi German persecution.

    In 1924, quotas were set for European immigrants so that no more than 2% of the 1890 immigrant stocks were allowed into America.
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    Mulberry Street, along which Manhattan's Little Italy is centered. Lower East Side, circa 1900.

    "New immigration" was a term from the late 1880s that came from the influx of immigrants from southern and eastern Europe (areas that previously sent few immigrants).[31] Some Americans feared the new arrivals. This raised the issue of whether the U.S. was still a "melting pot," or if it had just become a "dumping ground," and many old-stock Americans worried about negative effects on the economy, politics and culture.[32]
    Catholicism became a leading denomination 1860-1910. St. John Cantius, one of Chicago's "Polish Cathedrals" was one of the churches these new immigrants founded.

    There were restrictions to immigration in the past and it was directed towards "GASP" White Europeans....we should stop this illegal immigration immediately...

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    A quick and resounding YES ! from me.
    And yes, the rights of the nation supersede those "personal" rights, IMO.
    For over 200 years, all of the people who have emigrated understood the "one-language rule", until we went soft with all the Spanish speakers and the trade acts (Spanish, French, and English).
    Now, it may be too late, Spanish is entrenched..
    And its is a minor annoyance to have to put up with several foreign languages...
    Twenty years ago, English should have been the official language...

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    Re: Should English be declared the official language of the United States?

    I think English should be made the official federal language and that individual states could then add whatever second or third language they feel is necessary.
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