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Thread: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    I don't believe it should be state, agreeing with many of the things Digs has said.

    I do however think its reasonable to expect the citizens of the district to have voting power of some sort in the house.

    Split DC roughly in half, with part going to Maryland and part going to Virginia. While the land was originally marylands, with the metro region sprawling into both states and suburbs like Arlington and Silver Springs tieing in closely with DC, I think splitting between the two would be best. Have each state create districts within their allocated location contingent with the population there. Additional federal congressman for each state would be elected from those locations.

    So DC would remain a federal district, owned and operated by the Federal Government, however would gain voting powers in congressional elections in one of the two bordering states to give them some power and sway over the House.

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    n The Federalist No. 43, James Madison explained the need for a "federal district," sub*ject to Congress's exclusive jurisdiction and sep*arate from the territory, and authority, of any single state:

    The indispensable necessity of compleat authority at the seat of Government car*ries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every Legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insult*ed and its proceedings be interrupted, with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general Government, on the State comprehending the seat of the Government for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the Government, and dissatisfactory to the other members of the confederacy.

    Madison's concerns about insults to the "public authority" were not speculative. In June 1783, several hundred unpaid and angry Conti*nental soldiers had marched on Philadelphia, menacing Congress in Independence Hall itself. Pennsylvania refused all requests for assistance and, after two days, Congress adjourned. Its Members fled into New Jersey.

    The incident made a lasting impression. The Framers referenced it over and again in defend*ing their provision for a "federal town," which Anti-Federalists persisted in visualizing as a sink of corruption and a potential nursery for tyrants. In fact, however, the need for a territo*ry in which the general government exercised full sovereignty, not beholden to any state, was probably inherent in the federal system itself.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't really have a major problem with them having a voting member in congress, but allowing that would open the door for other territories of the US like Puerto Rico and Guam having representation in Congress.
    Giving DC (or any US territory) a voting representative in congress would require an amendment.

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Wyoming wasn't in the Louisiana Purchase. I think most of it was part of the Mexican Cession. A small part of it was part of Texas originally, if I'm not mistaken.
    Wyoming mostly drains into the Mississippi river basin, and so would have been part of the LP.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Actually, Puerto Ricans living on the island of Puerto Rico do NOT pay federal income taxes, though those living in the mainland DO, but they also have the right to vote in the areas in which they life.
    Cannot comment on PR... But in the USVI, the population plays federal income tax, which then all remains in the VI.
    They fill out a 1040VI form.

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    The reason DC is not a state is because DC is supposed to not have any undue influence over any one state. If you go back to the original intent of the union, it was to have 13 separate states acting under their own accord. The purpose of the federal government was to maintain the civil rights of the citizens, an organized army and negotiate trade agreements and treaties. If the capital had been in any one state there may have been a conflict of interest. So no, DC should not be a state.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The reason DC is not a state is because DC is supposed to not have any undue influence over any one state. If you go back to the original intent of the union, it was to have 13 separate states acting under their own accord. The purpose of the federal government was to maintain the civil rights of the citizens, an organized army and negotiate trade agreements and treaties. If the capital had been in any one state there may have been a conflict of interest. So no, DC should not be a state.
    So we could leave the feds in charge of the National Mall (including the White House, Capitol, and Supreme Court) where the seat of government is located. There's no reason that the rest of the District, where people actually live, shouldn't be a state.

    If the concern is that no state should have the seat of government, fine. We can carve a small slice out of Washington DC for the federal district. But there's no reason the federal district needs to be the size of an entire city.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Wyoming mostly drains into the Mississippi river basin, and so would have been part of the LP.
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