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Thread: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    As I've seen by a few in this thread, I think D.C. should have reps in the House, but shouldn't have senators. That being said, D.C. shouldn't become a state.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Do you agree that residents of DC should at least have a voting member of Congress instead of a non-voting member like Eleanor Holmes Norton?

    Whether or not people agree that DC should become a state, I believe that they should AT LEAST have a voting member in Congress.
    I don't really have a major problem with them having a voting member in congress, but allowing that would open the door for other territories of the US like Puerto Rico and Guam having representation in Congress.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In a representative democracy we shouldn't NEED to move elsewhere to exercise our rights to representation.
    Seems to me that you don't have any right to representation.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Seems to me that you don't have any right to representation.
    How about we abolish all the other states and make DC the sole state with a republican form of government. Then if any of YOU want to have input in the national government, you can pick up and move here.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How about we abolish all the other states and make DC the sole state with a republican form of government. Then if any of YOU want to be represented, you can pick up and move here.
    Meh, it doesn't really matter to me.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't really have a major problem with them having a voting member in congress, but allowing that would open the door for other territories of the US like Puerto Rico and Guam having representation in Congress.
    Guam and Puerto Rico can vote to become states or independent at any time. DC, does not have this luxury.

    Before I was a bit lukewarm on total statehood, but it would certainly prevent local issues there from becoming national ones.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Thinking about it, DC has a bigger population than Wyoming, so why not let it be a state?

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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Thinking about it, DC has a bigger population than Wyoming, so why not let it be a state?
    Because it is district that was part of the State of Maryland specifically ceded to the federal government to be the national capital of the country. Wyoming was a territory carved out of the Louisiana Purchase which was acquired via Federal Treaty. Big difference...
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Guam and Puerto Rico can vote to become states or independent at any time. DC, does not have this luxury.
    Yes it does. The Constitution allows for the statehood of any "Territory or other Property belonging to the United States." DC does not need a constitutional amendment, because DC only exists by an act of Congress in the first place. While the Constitution allows for that, there is nothing in the Constitution that *mandates* that Congress maintain a federal district at all...and certainly nothing that specifies that it needs to be located where the District of Columbia is.
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    Re: Should Washington D.C. become a state?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Because it is district that was part of the State of Maryland specifically ceded to the federal government to be the national capital of the country. Wyoming was a territory carved out of the Louisiana Purchase which was acquired via Federal Treaty. Big difference...
    I'm having a hard time grasping how the reason that Maryland ceded DC to the federal government is remotely relevant to its current status. The fact is that we have 50 states, some territories, and a federal district...and they all acquired their current status through a complex history. DC no longer has any ties whatsoever to Maryland jurisdiction. So what exactly is the issue here?

    Are you worried that the federal government would be reneging on its promise to Maryland if it allowed DC to have a representative democracy? This is a moot point, since Maryland doesn't want DC back and the federal government has no constitutional obligation to have a federal district located between Maryland and Virginia (or at all). As of now, DC is under federal jurisdiction, and the federal government has sole authority to do with it as it pleases, including make it into a state. Are you worried about those clauses in the Constitution you cited earlier? Not relevant, as DC doesn't lie within the jurisdiction of any state.

    When Maryland gave up control of DC in 1790, it ceased to have any claim whatsoever to it. This was later demonstrated in 1871, when the federal government made DC into the "District" that it is today without so much as consulting the state of Maryland. And again in 1973 when the federal government reorganized the way that the District operates...again with no concern whatsoever for what Maryland thought about it.
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