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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As you are.
    This is true, thankfully I will never have that opinion though. Because common sense reality and logic take over and I would never make such a bias ignorant blanket statement.

    but you are right, I would be free to think any ridiculous thought I wanted to if I wanted too.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    This is true, thankfully I will never have that opinion though. Because common sense reality and logic take over and I would never make such a bias ignorant blanket statement.

    but you are right, I would be free to think any ridiculous thought I wanted to if I wanted too.
    Don't to talk to me of common sense, reality, and logic as though you have any actual understanding of their meanings. Don't patronize me. One man's logic is another man's delusion; who are you to say you can't be the prior?

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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Don't to talk to me of common sense, reality, and logic as though you have any actual understanding of their meanings. Don't patronize me. One man's logic is another man's delusion; who are you to say you can't be the prior?
    So you are just going to try to ignore the fact that you made an inaccurate bias ignorant blanket statement.?

    Fine by me I didnt expect anything different really. LOL
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Abortion is killing for the sake of convenience.

    Some people like and support that convenience.
    Not all abortions are performed for the sake of 'convenience.'

    'Killing' implies the existence of a human being to be killed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Don't to talk to me of common sense, reality, and logic as though you have any actual understanding of their meanings. Don't patronize me. One man's logic is another man's delusion; who are you to say you can't be the prior?
    I seem to recall you mentioning you're a Christian, therefore, there's a certain hypocrisy in these criticisms about reality and logic.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    that's not the "natural order". the natural order of man, and most other species, is that of the male dominating the female.
    when this order is disregarded like it is now? you see what happens. moral decay. social disintegration and chaos. the destruction
    of the family unit. if any woman would EVER kill my child behind my back....whether born or unborn.....she better be willing to pay
    quite the high price for that action. she'd be lucky to be alive afterwards.
    Right. Because the past of slavery, beating, rape, rampant genocide, poverty, starvation and disease is such a wonderful thing, isn't it. Oh, and infanticide.

    Your desire to re-write history to make it convenient for espousing sexism does not make it so.

    Truth is, human societies are more kind, conscientious, orderly, and moral than they have ever been. It's true that much of the world hasn't gotten there yet, but most of it is better than it was a few hundreds years ago, and eventually, as society continues to march forward, the stragglers will catch up. And what's interesting about the societies with the best outcomes is that every single one of them has adopted gender equality (among other things).

    In addition, matriarchies both in the wild and in human societies can and do happen. You're simply wrong on every level.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    Not all abortions are performed for the sake of 'convenience.'

    'Killing' implies the existence of a human being to be killed.



    I seem to recall you mentioning you're a Christian, therefore, there's a certain hypocrisy in these criticisms about reality and logic.
    It's not hypocrisy if you acknowledge all beliefs cannot be absolutely proven. I believe my belief and acknowledge it as unable to be scientifically proven.It is faith. Unlike the other, I don't claim my belief as common sense, logic, or reality.

    With abortion one issue is the point when a developing human is a human, if there even is a point. It's a matter of opinion.

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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    that is nothing more than you opinion and one thats easily defeatable in THIS instance since viability and the law are on my side and there nothing but your opinion on yours.

    legality is a VERY important part LMAO

    two I love how we now dropped the idea of "responsibility" from the post you originally addressed like it has no barring

    and 3 how you left out the chopping off of a daughter's head

    how convenient and frankly absurd LOL

    Acting like those are the same is asinine and dishonest or complete ignorance. Pick one or all of them.
    yes. legality. i've already been over the "legality" of dehumanizing a certain segment of the population
    for reasons of convenience. it was done with the blacks during slavery in america and with the jews
    in nazi germany. these people were defined legally sub-human, as has been the unborn child in
    contemporary times. legality.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    yes. legality. i've already been over the "legality" of dehumanizing a certain segment of the population
    for reasons of convenience. it was done with the blacks during slavery in america and with the jews
    in nazi germany. these people were defined legally sub-human, as has been the unborn child in
    contemporary times. legality.
    *Waits for someone to scream Godwin while ignoring your decent points*

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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It's not hypocrisy if you acknowledge all beliefs cannot be absolutely proven.
    Not so fast. Yes, admittedly, true objectivity is impossible, as we cannot go outside the brain. However, presumably you have reconciled this.

    Also, there is a fundamental difference between these two scientific claims;

    A: Jesus Christ is the savior and the son of god.

    B: The melting point of Cobalt is 1768K.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I believe my belief and acknowledge it as unable to be scientifically proven.It is faith. Unlike the other, I don't claim my belief as common sense, logic, or reality.

    With abortion one issue is the point when a developing human is a human, if there even is a point. It's a matter of opinion.
    Oh, it absolutely could be scientifically proven, if it were true. The proposition that Jesus Christ is the savior, and son of the one true god, and all the other propositions made in scripture are scientific claims; they are exceptionally bad ones. To state that anything actually represents the world is to make a scientific claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    According to whom? In order for abortion to be murder, one would need to prove personhood.


    It is a person. Liberals are always saying that the joined egg & sperm isn't life, but this is merely an excuse so that they can support abortion.

    Aren't liberals supposed to be the compassionate ones?
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