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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Here is how you can determine the answer. Should abortion be allowed in every case with no restrictions? Should abortion be an alternative to birth control? If you have hesitations, perhaps you should ask why.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Here is how you can determine the answer. Should abortion be allowed in every case with no restrictions? Should abortion be an alternative to birth control? If you have hesitations, perhaps you should ask why.
    Ultimately, this thorny issue reduces to two primary issues; what constitutes a human being, and how we perform our respective moral calculations. Virtually all of the arguments on this issue revolve around one, or both of these tracks.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    I've noticed several accusations of irresponsibility on the part of women seeking abortions. Women who have abortions, by definition, cannot be totally irresponsible, by getting an abortion, they are doing the socially responsible thing.
    yeah. then so is the woman who leaves her 2 week old baby to die in a dumpster being "responsible". or the muslim who beheads
    his own daughter over suspicion of sexual promiscuity "responsible". murder is a very "responsible" act, it is.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They do, but they also apply to men. He was suggesting otherwise.
    It is strange that it appears that more people believe these arguments should only apply to men, or only to women, than believe that they should apply-- or not apply-- to both equally.

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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post

    And? So that means we shouldn't care about the unborn because born children suffer?
    Partially, yes. First of all, a ZEF does not have the characteristics of an actual person, logically or legally. Second, actual children should be a priority over a ZEF.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    the atrocity against the unborn can easily be corrected by making abortion illegal and punishing women and providers who kill another human life.
    Easily corrected-What are you suggesting here, digs? Prison time? Fines? What would be the charges?


    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Can you logically dismantle my example of how wrong it is to deny a human life rights based on a personal opinion of personhood?
    Your position on abortion is also based on your opinion of personhood, so no. That wont be necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm pro life not because I see women as "incubators" or want to deny women bodily sovereignty. I am pro-life because I support the human rights of the unborn and I believe that a woman shouldn't have the right to inhumanely kill another human life at a whim.
    A whim? There aren't many women who decide to get an abortion on a "whim." That's an ignorant assumption. And forcing women to continue an unwanted pregnancy is denying women their sovereignty. Many pro lifers see that, and instead make the argument that she has no sovereignty to begin with. Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I have no problem giving the morning after pill to raped women, but a human life is a human life. Once the egg is fertilized she shouldn't have any right to kill the new human life regardless of how that life was conceived. I don't think the innocent human life should be executed for the crime that its father committed.
    The morning after pill can also "kill" a fertilized egg. Just thought you should know.


    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Neither will murder, but I don't think we should legalize it for the safety of those who wish to kill a born person. The law recognizes injustice and attempts to correct it, it would be an even greater injustice to allow abortion to continue because some women may go through harmful lengths to kill their unborn children.
    It's illogical to enforce laws based on religious morality against certain personal behaviors, and such an action is not in the spirit of freedom.

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    She may not want her pregnancy, but she doesn't get to make that choice.
    Who does?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Yes, it's legal. But wrong. Morally, it's not her choice.
    Whose choices is then?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    no. actually the unwanted child is an incidental consequence of a woman either being too stupid, or too lazy
    to get a depo shot at the free clinic. if a woman can't afford a child, then she should be responsible enough
    not to have one. she can either obtain birth control or keep her gaping hole shut.
    You obviously have a very poor view of women from your remarks here. No need to reaffirm that.

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    not according to the feminist agenda, i'm not. you women want the power and responsibility of the man AND the woman.
    it's on you now.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    yeah. then so is the woman who leaves her 2 week old baby to die in a dumpster being "responsible". or the muslim who beheads
    his own daughter over suspicion of sexual promiscuity "responsible". murder is a very "responsible" act, it is.
    yep cause those are all idential acts LMAO
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    there is no such thing as an abortion on a dead fetus.

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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    yep cause those are all idential acts LMAO
    killing your kid is killing your kid. the only difference between getting an abortion
    and dumping your baby in a dumpster to die after it's born is a matter of legality.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    killing your kid is killing your kid. the only difference between getting an abortion
    and dumping your baby in a dumpster to die after it's born is a matter of legality.
    How do you figure? Once again, people making assertions and then not backing them.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    How do you figure? Once again, people making assertions and then not backing them.
    killing your kid is killing your kid. the child inside you is your kid...unless your a surrogate mother, of course.
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    Re: Is Abortion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    killing your kid is killing your kid. the child inside you is your kid...unless your a surrogate mother, of course.
    That's a matter of opinion.
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