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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Voting "None of the Above" sends a louder message than not voting at all.
    Yeah, it would be kinda nice to have a "No Confidence" box to check.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. The irony is that forcing someone to vote against their will and participate in democracy is undemocratic in itself.
    Well...if most people want compulsory voting...wouldn't establishing compulsory voting then be democratic?
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, I don't think that you should force voting. For one, there may not be a candidate someone really can get behind and are left without the ability to vote on that office. In the end, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. People should take voting more seriously, be more informed on all the candidates, and make intelligent decisions. But you can't force them to vote if they don't want to. I think it's perhaps relatively foolish to forgo just randomly your vote, it's a symbol of your power and sovereignty that you are lending to government. But it's their choice and they need to be free to make it.
    Just because you are required to vote does not mean you are required to vote for a candidate. This is a strange assumption you people have. You could vote for "Snow White" or "Underdog" the point is you vote.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Well...if most people want compulsory voting...wouldn't establishing compulsory voting then be democratic?
    Well that would come through a vote, and that means only the people who do vote would vote on it. So the majority of that population is not the majority of the actual population (nearly half of people don't vote I believe). Regardless, it is their vote and they can do with it as they please. Though I think one thing here clearly outlines the danger of strict democracy. It's mob rule, there's no guarantee of rights.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Just because you are required to vote does not mean you are required to vote for a candidate. This is a strange assumption you people have. You could vote for "Snow White" or "Underdog" the point is you vote.
    Some people don't vote because they cannot give their consent to the government.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Not exactly a list of the most successful regimes either.

    Yes, let us learn democracy from unstable Latin America and a country that bans chewing gum then whips violators.
    I disagree. Australia and Brazil are quite successful.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Low voter turn out. Low interesting in politics.
    The first sentence is not inherently a problem (or if it is you haven't explained why). The second sentence isn't solved by mandatory voting.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought
    Or maybe more people should get involved and become informed. I have this silly idea that a democracy should be based upon an informed public, not an ignorant public where only the extremists vote.
    That's unrealistic to expect everyone to become more informed, and in any case that isn't what you're proposing. You didn't say "mandatory voting and compulsory news-watching" or something like that...you just said mandatory voting. Forcing people to check a box for one candidate or another doesn't make them more informed, it just wastes their time and makes the electorate less well-informed on average.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    No. There are plenty of reason why people don't vote. Either there is no one close enough to there preferences, or like my father, cannot escape from the hospital to vote. I mean hell even when I do vote, I just press buttons. I mean do I really care who is Water Management Backup Carrier is?
    Why don't you care?
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm starting to think we should require that people vote. If you don't vote you should get fined. It's not a very libertarian position, but given how few eligible Americans actually vote, I doubt that the majority is very well represented. The fines don't even have to be high, since most people will turn up to vote just to avoid the hassle of paying one. And it works! It increases voter turnout by as much as 16%!

    The following countries have enforced compulsory voting....

    Argentina
    Australia
    Brazil
    Chile
    Ecuador
    Fiji
    Liechtenstein
    Nauru
    Peru
    Singapore
    Uruguay

    Not exactly a list of totalitarian regimes.
    I have SERIOUS issues when people who don't care at all about the issues, politics, taxation (and so forth) let their decisions (blind, random, based on popularity or whichever person they've heard of) affect every aspect of MY life.

    If they don't care to exercise their right then by all means - let the people who DO care A LOT make educated decisions for them instead.

    I can tolerate someone having a different - but well informed and educated view - affect my life.
    But I do NOT tolerate at all when some lazy good for nothing dumb **** who couldn't even spell the word 'war' if it smacked him in the face actually makes the deciosions that will determine the path that our family's life will take in the next 4 years.
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    Re: Should the US have complusory voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The first one is not inherently a problem (or if it is you haven't explained why). The second one isn't solved by mandatory voting.
    The first one is a problem because the majority is not truly represented. Hence why we have a "silent" majority in this country that everyone in politics likes to speculate about. The second has been demonstrated to be greatly improved by compulsory voting in all the countries that have instituted it. If people are required to vote, they do generally take greater interest in it since they have to do it anyway.

    That's unrealistic to expect everyone to become more informed, and in any case that isn't what you're proposing. You didn't say "mandatory voting and compulsory news-watching" or something like that...you just said mandatory voting. Forcing people to check a box for one candidate or another doesn't make them more informed, it just wastes their time and makes the electorate less well-informed on average.
    Countries that require voting and enforce it generally have a more informed and involved populace. Democracy should be as well informed as possible in order for it to function.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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