View Poll Results: Does former Utah governor John Huntsman have a real, viable chance at the Republican

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    Re: John Huntsman

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    Would you please post your survey results?
    I can just picture Reagan running in the GOP primary today. He would be absolutely pilloried by all the other candidates on stage:

    "My opponent, Mr. Reagan is a RINO. During his first term as president, he betrayed the Senate Republicans who worked tirelessly to pass social security cuts...and had the nerve to bail out the program! The size of the government has expanded dramatically under his watch. He showed weakness by reaching a nuclear arms agreement with the USSR...will he compromise with Al-Qaeda too? He's already granted amnesty to illegal immigrants once...no doubt he's chomping at the bit to do it again. His pattern of liberalism goes all the way back to his days as Governor of California, when he nearly tripled state spending, raised taxes by 30%, and pursued devastating environmental regulations. My fellow Americans, Mr. Reagan isn't just a Democrat. He's a socialist." - any Republican running for president today

    The fact is that Actual Reagan wasn't nearly as conservative as Mythical Reagan. If Actual Reagan was running for president, he'd probably be the most liberal candidate in the GOP race.
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    Re: John Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    We want someone who gets **** done. You get **** done by working with people.

    We're all Americans here. The enemy is everywhere ****ing else.
    I see it different... I don't want someone who gets **** done, I want someone to eliminate the ****.
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    Re: John Huntsman

    I'd prefer him to Cain. In fact, he doesn't sound like that bad of a candidate.

    The only thing I'm iffy about is the fact that spending increased while he was governor and he lowered taxes. That seems a little off. People don't seem to understand that if you are spending more than you take in then you can't actively work to make your take in amount less. The math doesn't work out. And it doesn't sound like the decreased taxes were made up for anywhere else. Granted, this wouldn't have been just him, but also those in the state legislature.
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    Re: John Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    In fact, he doesn't sound like that bad of a candidate.

    The only thing I'm iffy about is the fact that spending increased while he was governor and he lowered taxes. That seems a little off. People don't seem to understand that if you are spending more than you take in then you can't actively work to make your take in amount less.
    Often lowering tax rates significantly increases, rather than decreases, tax revenues. Why, you might ask? Because lower tax rates set the stage for increased business activity. Increased business activity leads to increased tax revenues.

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    Re: John Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Often lowering tax rates significantly increases, rather than decreases, tax revenues. Why, you might ask? Because lower tax rates set the stage for increased business activity. Increased business activity leads to increased tax revenues.
    That doesn't seem to have happened in Utah however, since they still reported a large amount of spending.

    I hear this a lot but it really doesn't seem to be that effective. It would depend on what people are spending that extra money on, if anything, and whether that extra money that businesses make and are being taxed on results in enough of an increase in their taxes to make up for the lowered income taxes. Another factor in this is where the money is going. If a person gets a tax cut in Utah, then spends that extra money on a vacation out of the state, then the state is not seeing any of that extra revenue. Enough people spend the money out of state, and the plan backfires and you have less money going into your economy.
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    Re: John Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Does former Utah governor John Huntsman have a real, viable chance at the Republican nomination?

    I would vote for Huntman over Obama any day, but I don't feel like he's got a chance.

    last option was suppose to be a joke "Who the **** is John Huntsman?"
    I wish he did, but sadly, no. I do think Jon Huntsman represents the Republican party of about 2025 though.
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    Re: John Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Does former Utah governor John Huntsman have a real, viable chance at the Republican nomination?

    I would vote for Huntman over Obama any day, but I don't feel like he's got a chance.

    last option was suppose to be a joke "Who the **** is John Huntsman?"
    I see a lot of liberally minded people supporting him. So I say he is either DOA or if he does win the nomination he will guarantee Obama his second term. A lot of people would rather elect a real democrat instead of a RINO. Other than liberals the only people who would vote for RINOs are die hard republicans who think party's **** don't stink no matter what they do.
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