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I want to see the President fail

I want to see President Obama fail


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But the end result is that our nation continues to be stuck in a bad place.




Nonsense. Some folks believe that if Obama implemented everything he wanted, we'd be in a worse place. Yes I want THAT to fail.



Funny how this it is a topic for this president... It's like opposite day from the last one. :lamo
 
But the end result is that our nation continues to be stuck in a bad place.

Not necessarily. If a bad policy fails at getting through our Congress and Senate, and if necessary our court system, then they can go back and try something different. Hopfully that something will be something that is actually needed and good. If not then hopefully the process recycles. In this way you can hope that Obama succeeds, yet still hope his bad policies fail.

Edit note: Unfortenately our system is not perfect due to greedy men. I truely believe that our FF's made a great system of government. But it only works properly if the people running it are not greedy.
 
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Funny how this it is a topic for this president... It's like opposite day from the last one. :lamo

It's almost exactly opposite, complete with folk on both sides switching their arguments.
 
But the end result is that our nation continues to be stuck in a bad place.

Correct. It would be nice if we elected a more competent President to begin with. One who made better choices from the start.
 
But the end result is that our nation continues to be stuck in a bad place.

Partisanship blocks progress? I know that sounds easy to agree to, but what are you actually left with without partisanship in politics? Sure, reason and logical courses can guide you, but when you pick your course and defend it against another plan, you are now officially a partisan.
 
What can I do, now....directly, to cause Obama to fail?
 
So many of you do. You are in here crowing every day about how he's just been nothing but a total loser ever since he took office. He's stupid. He only got educated because of affirmative action. Every day America is in more and more trouble, and you couldn't be happier.

It's almost like you don't care that America is the cost. As long as HE fails, that's all that matters.

You are proposing Case A...

Case A: people hating Obama because he is Democrat/Liberal/Black/Whatever, and wanting him to fail no matter what the cost to the USA because of their hate.

When I personally believe most people you are talking about are Case B....

Case B: firmly believing that Obama's policies are BAD for America, that if he succeeds in implementing them it will be WORSE for America, and therefore wanting him to fail because it will be BETTER for America if he does not get his way in too many things.



Put me down for Case B. While I'd personally prefer for Obama to come to his senses and start doing things that will help the country instead of damage it, it seems improbable....
 
But I've never seen you in here crowing about how bad things are, and that's All His Fault. Ever.
 
But I've never seen you in here crowing about how bad things are, and that's All His Fault. Ever.


I respect the office of the President regardless of my opinion of the current holder, and I despise seeing petty criticism about trivial matters. I'm also too much of a realist to throw EVERYTHING wrong at the feet of any one man... our current troubles are partly a result of decades-long trends neither party has mustered the will to fix, though I see them as being BADLY exacerbated by the present administration.

I am not a Rah-Rah-My-Jersey sort, for the most part. However, I do not want to see the Obama agendi, as currently constituted, succeed because I believe the results would be disasterous.

I'm just pointing out that not everyone who may be tarred with the "wants Obama to fail" brush is coming from the same perspective.
 
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Fail, Barak. Fail. And when you do, go hard.
 
Yep I totally believe that all the people that voted for obama and or support his policies are traitors, Im with you brotha!:aliens2:

more of your exaggerating lies. please show me where i said that. you can't because i didn't say it. i said that
if YOUR GOALS are OBAMA's GOALS, then you are a traitor yourself.
nice try, though.
 
Of course I want him to fail. He is a Marxist. He is destroying the nation. if he fails we win. If he succeeds American ceases to be.
 
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How does wanting a President to fail support success? That makes no sense. If he succeeds the nation wins. If you don't like him vote against him but wishing failure on a President is hoping the nation fails. That is a dumb position to take.

It is very un-Americian. That is what the right used to say when folks said same kind of things about Bush. Funny how those calling folks down for wishing Bush to fail are some of the same ones that want Obama to fail. Hypocrites as usual:)
 
Of course I want him to fail. He is a Marxist. He is destroying the nation. if he fails we win. If he succeeds American ceases to be.

Alert the Press! If Obama succeeds America will be nevermore! Talk about scare "the sky is falling" tactics. Give me a break:roll:

Obama succeeds? It makes us look good and we gain back some of the respect we lost under Bush;)
 
Alert the Press! If Obama succeeds America will be nevermore! Talk about scare "the sky is falling" tactics. Give me a break:roll:

Obama succeeds? It makes us look good and we gain back some of the respect we lost under Bush;)

yeah. he's already"succeeding" actually, at least according to his agenda. this country is becoming more and more of a divided $h!thole everyday.
that IS success according to obamanomics.
 
As PoTUS, Obama is quite easily the most important man to the future of America at the moment. His every job, his every idea, his every thought is for the betterment of our country. His GOAL is the betterment of our country. You can be paranoid and unrealistic all you wish by saying he's secretly a Tyrant, or a Communist, or a Evil Freedom-Eating Alien (From Kenya!), but those of us who are realistic and possess a brain at least capable of moderately sound logic know that he's at least trying to help America.

Wishing for the failure of someone who is trying to help this country is wishing for the failure of the betterment of the country. That is treasonous, and it's Un-American in the extreme.

Does he always attempt those goals in fashions which are for the best? No. That is not failure.

Does he always reach the goals he sets out for himself? No. That is failure. Failure is giving up. Failure is not reaching your goal and then to stop trying. So long as he continues to attempt to reach the goals he sets forth, then he has not failed. So long as the changes he implements lead to a gain in prosperity, security and/or freedom for the American people, he has not failed.

more of your exaggerating lies. please show me where i said that. you can't because i didn't say it. i said that
if YOUR GOALS are OBAMA's GOALS, then you are a traitor yourself.
nice try, though.

By the definition of U.S Law and The U.S. Military , this is impossible. You are being fallacious and inflammatory. Please cease and desist.

If some of you were in the Military (Funnily enough, most of the conservatives, who LOVE the military), your asses would be so deep in **** you'd be shoveling your way out it till your grandchildren were old enough to join.
 
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As PoTUS, Obama is quite easily the most important man to the future of America at the moment. His every job, his every idea, his every thought is for the betterment of our country. His GOAL is the betterment of our country. You can be paranoid and unrealistic all you wish by saying he's secretly a Tyrant, or a Communist, or a Evil Freedom-Eating Alien (From Kenya!), but those of us who are realistic and possess a brain at least capable of moderately sound logic know that he's at least trying to help America.

Wishing for the failure of someone who is trying to help this country is wishing for the failure of the betterment of the country. That is treasonous, and it's Un-American in the extreme.

Does he always attempt those goals in fashions which are for the best? No. That is not failure.

Does he always reach the goals he sets out for himself? No. That is failure. Failure is giving up. Failure is not reaching your goal and then to stop trying. So long as he continues to attempt to reach the goals he sets forth, then he has not failed. So long as the changes he implements lead to a gain in prosperity, security and/or freedom for the American people, he has not failed.

If some of you were in the Military (Funnily enough, most of the conservatives, who LOVE the military), your asses would be so deep in **** you'd be shoveling your way out it till your grandchildren were old enough to join.

i can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
 
Not. The PoTUS is the highest authority in the nation. His very definition is to lead this country, to serve it, to better it. It is his driving force.

You are an extremist with no basis for your claims, Obama does what he does with the best of the country in mind. You may not agree with his ideas as what IS the best, but that does not mean that he is attempting to betray the country itself.

Difference != Opposition To.

Let me clarify. I do not like much of what Obama has done. I am not a Hardcore Obama Fan. But he is The President, the very idea that anyone with traitorous ideals could become president is downright foolish. You have no idea that amount of vetting, the amount of research, the amount of thought and consideration goes into selecting a Presidential Candidate. If Obama had treasonous ideals he would have never held public office!

Ugh. Why am I even bothering? You can't even be bothered to capitalize or use proper grammar and/or formatting.
 
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BDBoop, when I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were the biggest troll ever :p

But why do conservatives hate Obama so much? It can't be because of his policies because they hated him before he rose to office, and need I remind that they were thinking Sarah Palin a much better candidate even over McCain. I think most follow this bandwagon call of resisting every effort Obama makes- whether he is trying to help America or not- and I think its obvious they have been doing that from the start. To actually see that done in congress is amazing. No republican votes for his measures. It's like he's been blacklisted. How can any educated conservative (and I notice there are pretty educated conservatives who post at this site) be so hard against a man who has to deal with the open and near hostile opposition of a party determined to crush any initiative he may take- whatever position he takes- whether progress is halted or not? You know what that says to me? They don't care about country first. They want the country to tailspin as much as possible to prove that conservative thought is the only right answer for the country.
 
Not. The PoTUS is the highest authority in the nation. His very definition is to lead this country, to serve it, to better it. It is his driving force.

You are an extremist with no basis for your claims, Obama does what he does with the best of the country in mind. You may not agree with his ideas as what IS the best, but that does not mean that he is attempting to betray the country itself.

Difference != Opposition To.

nope. money is the highest authority in this country. and barack obama follows the money, just like every other political whore in DC.
 
Lewstherin???

is that Lews Therin from the Wheel of Time series? Not jabbing at you, just brings me back. Good reading.
 
BDBoop, when I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were the biggest troll ever :p

But why do conservatives hate Obama so much? It can't be because of his policies because they hated him before he rose to office, and need I remind that they were thinking Sarah Palin a much better candidate even over McCain. I think most follow this bandwagon call of resisting every effort Obama makes- whether he is trying to help America or not- and I think its obvious they have been doing that from the start. To actually see that done in congress is amazing. No republican votes for his measures. It's like he's been blacklisted. How can any educated conservative (and I notice there are pretty educated conservatives who post at this site) be so hard against a man who has to deal with the open and near hostile opposition of a party determined to crush any initiative he may take- whatever position he takes- whether progress is halted or not? You know what that says to me? They don't care about country first. They want the country to tailspin as much as possible to prove that conservative thought is the only right answer for the country.

It's because he's black. We're all too ignorant and racist to see just how wonderful his policies trully are.
 
Lewstherin???

is that Lews Therin from the Wheel of Time series? Not jabbing at you, just brings me back. Good reading.

yeah. i'm not really into the genre...but a friend wouldn't leave me alone until i agreed to read "the eye of the world".
i was hooked after that. i then adopted the "character" for a username. i use it quite a few places. i haven't even read
the books in the series after jordan died. i might sometime.
 
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