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I want to see the President fail

I want to see President Obama fail

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cpwill said:
yeah. that and "lol"ing as if derision made up for lack of logic. I tend to think of it as the "14 year old girl who watches jersey shore" debate method.



:lol: go get'em, tiger.
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comming from you this makes me happy :D
 
Ikari said:
Well you know what? If you're not with us, you're against us. Thanks for hating America.

HAHAHAH. I love this Republican propaganda, it's fun ****.
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aw. :) did someone fail 9th grade reading comprehension?
 
theplaydrive said:
It's true - if he fails at helping the country, the it's our failure as well.
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Our failure as in some significant portion of our nation's citizens will continue to suffer.
 
theplaydrive said:
That's not what this thread is about, although it's nice to you turn the point around in order to make yourself look better. The thread is about those who want policies to fail in helping the country.
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I have NO idea what you're talking about. I was specifically told that I'm UnAmerican because I don't want Obama's policies (and him by proxy) to succeed. I was pointing out the irony of that statement, which was made in this thread. In fact, that statement was made to more than one person, by more than one person, and was used as a basis for the argument as to why we shouldn't wish for policy failures. In that sense, it is very much related to the topic and your post is the one that doesn't belong.

Thanks for playing, though.
 
Centrist77 said:
all based on your opinion that nobody is arguing. Did I say bad policies will make us win? of ocurse not
but they are only bad if they fail LOL so no matter if I think they are bad I want them to have success because its better for america. SImple common sense

I root for EVERY president to have success, ALL OF THEM
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The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure I remember the reverse of this thread a few years ago when people were wanting Bush to fail and that was terrible and we shouldn't wish for a President to fail because if the President fails, we all fail. Blah blah blah. Shoes on a different foot and now all of a sudden it doesn't seem to be the "if you're not with us, you're against us" crap the GOP threw out there a few years ago. Pathetic, but to be expected.
 
cpwill said:
not in her writing - Tessy is a solid, thoughtful poster, not unlike yourself - rather in thinking that she was going to get anything of comparative quality back.




see what I mean?
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So it applies to us, too. The knee jerk assumption is "in thinking that she was going to get anything of comparative quality back." Correct?
 
tessaesque said:
You do realize that saying "his failure is our failure" is an absolute statement, right? Also, so is "rooting for YOUR OPINION of what will fail is rooting for AMERICA to fail"
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yes I do because it IS an absolute statement LMAO!
If he fails tell me how we win? WE CANT lol
we will have to go back and change/fix said policies and 4 years is wasted, that is a LOSS period. twist it anyway you want but that would be a loss.
 
tessaesque said:
I have NO idea what you're talking about. I was specifically told that I'm UnAmerican because I don't want Obama's policies (and him by proxy) to succeed.
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Are you mad that they're using the Bush Playbook too? It is a bit unfortunate because it really stifles debate and dissent, but the Republocrats have been up to that for quite some time now.
 
BDBoop said:
Our failure as in some significant portion of our nation's citizens will continue to suffer.
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but suffer less as they will have avoided further loss.

another medical analogy might be appropriate. if the doctor is suggesting that the right response to America having the flu is to open her veins and bleed her in order to clean out the bad blood a'la 15th century medical practics - then keeping that doctor from successfully implementing said medical procedure leaves America still with the flue.... but at least not bleeding all over the floor.
 
theplaydrive said:
It's true - if he fails at helping the country, the it's our failure as well.
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exactly its just common sense but you have to be objective to see it and not blinded by bias or emotion
 
BDBoop said:
Tell me what he's done right, where he's succeeded, and I'll entertain your question.

Oh wait. There wasn't a question.

How, specifically and exactly Miss Mellie, is he "driving us off a cliff?"
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With over-regulation.
 
Ikari said:
The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure I remember the reverse of this thread a few years ago when people were wanting Bush to fail and that was terrible and we shouldn't wish for a President to fail because if the President fails, we all fail. Blah blah blah. Shoes on a different foot and now all of a sudden it doesn't seem to be the "if you're not with us, you're against us" crap the GOP threw out there a few years ago. Pathetic, but to be expected.
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I'm actually about 95% sure somebody arguing against us wanting policy failure used that exact phrase.
 
cpwill said:
aw. :) did someone fail 9th grade reading comprehension?
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No, I'm just laughing it up now that the Bush playbook is being used by the other side now.
 
Centrist77 said:
yes I do because it IS an absolute statement LMAO!
If he fails tell me how we win? WE CANT lol
we will have to go back and change/fix said policies and 4 years is wasted, that is a LOSS period. twist it anyway you want but that would be a loss.
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So you've contradicted yourself. You said there are no absolutes, then you provide one.
 
Ikari said:
The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure I remember the reverse of this thread a few years ago when people were wanting Bush to fail and that was terrible and we shouldn't wish for a President to fail because if the President fails, we all fail. Blah blah blah. Shoes on a different foot and now all of a sudden it doesn't seem to be the "if you're not with us, you're against us" crap the GOP threw out there a few years ago. Pathetic, but to be expected.
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I wasn't here but yes I knew many that wanted Bush to fail and that to was just has dumb, his failure was our failure as we see everyday.
 
tessaesque said:
I have NO idea what you're talking about. I was specifically told that I'm UnAmerican because I don't want Obama's policies (and him by proxy) to succeed. I was pointing out the irony of that statement, which was made in this thread. In fact, that statement was made to more than one person, by more than one person, and was used as a basis for the argument as to why we shouldn't wish for policy failures. In that sense, it is very much related to the topic and your post is the one that doesn't belong.

Thanks for playing, though.
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And you continue to either twist words or not understand what has been clarified for you several times. It's not about supporting policies that you think will fail, it's about wanting policies to fail at helping the country. I think the problem is that you're misinterpreting people's comments and responding accordingly. Centrist and BD and I have clarified several times that supporting policies that you believe are bad is not a problem - it's wishing for Obama to fail at improving the country.
 
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katiegrrl0 said:
How does wanting a President to fail support success? That makes no sense. If he succeeds the nation wins. If you don't like him vote against him but wishing failure on a President is hoping the nation fails. That is a dumb position to take.
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No, if he succeeds, the nation loses. He's succeeded in doing everything he wanted to do. How is the economy reacting to those polices? Not favorably, huh?
 
BDBoop said:
So it applies to us, too. The knee jerk assumption is "in thinking that she was going to get anything of comparative quality back." Correct?
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I wouldn't say it's knee - jerk; I would say it's experienced. You're just not likely to get that much of substance other than the "lol you are such a tool and an idiot for disagreeing with me when obviously i'm correct because I am LOL" line. :shrug:
 
theplaydrive said:
And you continue to either twist words or not understand what has been clarified for you several times. It's about supporting policies that you think will fail, it's about wanting policies to fail at helping the country. I think the problem is that you're misinterpreting people's comments and responding accordingly. Centrist and BD and I have clarified several times that supporting policies that you believe are bad is not a problem - it's wishing for Obama to fail at improving the country.
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O'Bama's polices were never going to help the country.
 
Ikari said:
No, I'm just laughing it up now that the Bush playbook is being used by the other side now.
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:shrug: I recall pointing out that people who wanted us to lose the war rather than switch to an intelligent strategy were cheering for loss - but that "switch to the correct strategy" bit is rather key.
 
apdst said:
O'Bama's polices were never going to help the country.
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Since when have any of the Republocrats policies help us on the whole? They're all meant to help the same group at the expense of the rest of us.
 
tessaesque said:
So you've contradicted yourself. You said there are no absolutes, then you provide one.
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No I was referring to how to run the government if I didnt make that clear I apologize but i used it in content of OPINIONS of POLICY.
There are no absolutes like you were using: President likes policy A that is a failure cause I said so.
 
theplaydrive said:
And you continue to either twist words or not understand what has been clarified for you several times. It's about supporting policies that you think will fail, it's about wanting policies to fail at helping the country. I think the problem is that you're misinterpreting people's comments and responding accordingly. Centrist and BD and I have clarified several times that supporting policies that you believe are bad is not a problem - it's wishing for Obama to fail at improving the country.
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You're not getting the point, then. We don't believe these policies will help America. That's why we want them to fail. We believe they will cause harm we will have a hard time recovering from. We don't want that, so they must fail. Do you get it now? Nobody is talking about wanting to fail at improving the country except y'all, who seem to think that's our goal. His policies won't help, even if he truly believes that they will. So yeah, we want failure. Because failure in bad policies is not a bad thing in the long run.
 
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cpwill said:
:shrug: I recall pointing out that people who wanted us to lose the war rather than switch to an intelligent strategy were cheering for loss - but that "switch to the correct strategy" bit is rather key.
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You can recall anything you want. It doesn't change the propaganda being put out by the conservatives at the time. This thread is the same propaganda in reverse. You Republocrats are quite similar you know.
 
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