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I want to see the President fail

I want to see President Obama fail


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I want some aspects of what Obama is trying to do fail. I want him to fail at increasing spending and I want his stimulus plan to fail in the form of repeal. I also want his healthcare plan to fail and be repealed so we can start over. I want America to succeed, but I believe in order for that to happen many of Obama's ideas and regulations must fail.
 
I voted other. I wish the President would do what is right for the economy, but as long as he keeps doing the wrong thing I appreciate that the economy has not over come his stupidity and did not recover. It serves as proof that keynesian economics fail.
 
Guess I don't have half a brain then.

I wanted him to fail at getting universal health care. I wanted him to fail at getting cap and trade. I wanted him to fail at getting a second "Stimulus" bill. I wanted him to fail at ending the Bush Tax Cuts. I wanted him to fail at trying KSM in NY.

There's times I definitely wanted him to succeed as well. And there were times where I didn't feel strongly about the negative impact of his actions that indeed I HOPED he succeeded even though I was leery, such as in the ways he chose to engage Egypt. But you're damn right if there were times I absolutely wanted this President to fail, and if that gives me half a brain so be it.

By the way, I wanted Bush to fail as well. I wanted him to fail at putting a restriction of rights into the constitution. I wanted him to fail at furthering government influence into our schools. I wanted him to fail at passing stimulus. I wanted him to fail with "comprehensive" immigration reform. Somehow, wanting HIM to fail on those things never really seemed to piss off liberals. Funny that.

Do you ever wonder (because it's not just this board, it's nationwide and getting worse) what would happen if people stopped getting so locked into the party mindset? I'm 50. I was politics ignorant for the better part of - I don't remember anything mattering until Clinton. I don't remember caring that "your vote matters" until Bush. Even at that, it was like the difference between a casual gamer and raider. And even now, I'm just a talking head at a forum.

Question for everybody. Why do I live here. Why am I not off somewhere at a liberal board, only hearing what I want to hear? Seriously.
 
lol... well thanks for the welcome, fellow neanderthal. Perhaps if you weren't a neanderthal you would have noticed the timings of our postings. Your welcome wasnt in existence when I clicked to reply to your other post.


And it's not BS. I'm fairly centered in my views actually leaning more left than right, I've never seen a president attacked as much as George Bush jr was by the far left.

You just feel blue because your guy Barry is a failure and people are calling him on it, everyday. Rightfully so too.
 
Tell me what he's done right, where he's succeeded, and I'll entertain your question.

Obama didn't raise taxes last December - I'll give him that. On national security, he has done a good job of generally following the Bush strategy; though I wish he had an actual "policy" that we could at least follow consistently. when he announced that he wanted to increase drilling, that was the right call - just as when he announced that no, not really, he'd changed his mind, that was the wrong one.

Oh wait. There wasn't a question.

How, specifically and exactly Miss Mellie, is he "driving us off a cliff?"


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we've been headed for the cliff for some time. Obama mostly just stomped on the gas.
 
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Tell me what he's done right, where he's succeeded

He ordered the killing of our enemies: bin Laden, the Somali pirates, more al Qaeda leaders, etc.

How, specifically and exactly Miss Mellie, is he "driving us off a cliff?"

Wow. I thought this was pretty evident even for liberals. Let's see.......spending TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars when we're in a recession, bailing out large companies with OUR money instead of letting the free market work, printing more and more and more money, etc. etc. etc. I think we've been over this a gazillion times. His approval rating isn't good, BD.
 
BDBoop, your problem is that you're defining "fail" as the country is in total depression, everyone's out of work and starving, etc. That's not how everyone is defining it.

That's how the Republicans have defined it for me. That no, we're not here yet. But we will be, as long as he's in charge!!!! And obviously he will be for over another 18 months, plus however long it takes to get a Republican in the White House.
 
Question for everybody. Why do I live here. Why am I not off somewhere at a liberal board, only hearing what I want to hear? Seriously.

Because there is still hope for you ;)
 
lol... well thanks for the welcome, fellow neanderthal. Perhaps if you weren't a neanderthal you would have noticed the timings of our postings. Your welcome wasnt in existence when I clicked to reply to your other post.


And it's not BS. I'm fairly centered in my views actually leaning more left than right, I've never seen a president attacked as much as George Bush jr was by the far left.

You just feel blue because your guy Barry is a failure and people are calling him on it, everyday. Rightfully so too.

Why do you call him Barry? Did you call the last one George? Or are you reacting to all the morons (see? Morons when they do it, not so when you do) who called him "Shrub". Which I never did, by the way.

You'll have to up your game, Mister Lee. There's a half a forum of people on ignore for never contributing anything but fringe rhetoric. If they could at least deliver some good snark, I'd be more than happy to read their words, but for now it's a complete waste of time.
 
That's how the Republicans have defined it for me. That no, we're not here yet. But we will be, as long as he's in charge!!!! And obviously he will be for over another 18 months, plus however long it takes to get a Republican in the White House.

Yes, if the country is in a depression and it's citizens are starving and no one has work, then that's a fail. Do you see that that's where we're heading right now? I see nothing Obama is doing that's stopping it.

Will a Republican stop it? Only if we get one who will massively reduce spending.
 
I never want any president to fail ever! Thats simply stupid. I dont care what party they claim I want success for them becuae it means success for AMERICA.

Now if I ever come across a president that I feel WANTS to hurt America then of course Id want them to fail but I havent come across a president that I felt that way about.

Disagree with a president is one thing, believing they are out to purposely hurt america is another. Every president in my live time as wanted success for america and its people so thats why I always want the president to succeed. Rooting against Obama is dumb because what if his ideas WORK??? lol
 
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Why do you call him Barry? Did you call the last one George? Or are you reacting to all the morons (see? Morons when they do it, not so when you do) who called him "Shrub". Which I never did, by the way.

You'll have to up your game, Mister Lee. There's a half a forum of people on ignore for never contributing anything but fringe rhetoric. If they could at least deliver some good snark, I'd be more than happy to read their words, but for now it's a complete waste of time.


Because Barry Soetoro is his name. You're welcome to put me on ignore, for answering your questions.


lol.
 
Question for everybody. Why do I live here. Why am I not off somewhere at a liberal board, only hearing what I want to hear? Seriously.

The same reason we're all here - we love to debate politics. :)
 
.......... Disagree with a president is one thing, believing they are out to purposely hurt america is another. Every president in my live time as wanted success for america and its people so thats why I always want the president to succeed. Rooting against Obama is dumb because what if his ideas WORK??? lol

And if they do not work, and make things worse ?

Are at least a few of us able to look at a plan before it starts and say that it will make things worse ?

Or does everyone have to be a lemming ?
 
That's how the Republicans have defined it for me. That no, we're not here yet. But we will be, as long as he's in charge!

not necessarily. the government's drag on growth and job creation is a product of the poor policies it enacts. if we elect a Republican who pursues the same poor policies (as Bush did in his last year or so), then the result will not change, and if Obama and Senate Democrats wake up tomorrow and alter their agenda to one that is more pro-growth, then the results will change.

usually it's not the person - it's the policies. someone with a 'D' after their name can get positive economic results from wise economic policy just as easily as someone with an 'R' can.
 
How does wanting a President to fail support success? That makes no sense. If he succeeds the nation wins. If you don't like him vote against him but wishing failure on a President is hoping the nation fails. That is a dumb position to take.

no. it's no different than your neighbor kicking your door in to rob your house. do you want him him to fail or succeed?
barack obama is an anti-American imposter. and anyone wishing this man success is a traitor.
 
And if they do not work, and make things worse ?

Are at least a few of us able to look at a plan before it starts and say that it will make things worse ?

Or does everyone have to be a lemming ?

If they dont work they dont work, didnt say you have to AGREE with them or support them
But wanting him to fail is illogical unless his goal is honestly to hurt the US which it is not.

Your OPINION on whether a presidents ideas are good or bad are no more valuable then anyone else but you still root for success.

To dumb it down as simple as possible, youre on a football team, coach and QB deiced a QB sneak is what we are going to run, do you hope the coach and QB fail just because you wanted a pass play? of course not lol

You can verbally disagree
You can hope/vote for a new president / QB
but you always root for your own team because their decisions were made because they wanted to WIN, they were trying to loose.

Its pretty simple actually, dont confuse disagreeing or wanting things done differently with hope he fails.
You realize if he fails WE ALL LOSE because then no progress is made for 4 years.

Just like the QB if he doesnt score what good is that? You still want him to score because it means WE ALL win.
 
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If they dont work they dont work, didnt say you have to AGREE with them or support them
But wanting him to fail is illogical unless his goal is honestly to hurt the US which it is not.

Your OPINION on whether a presidents ideas are good or bad are no more valuable then anyone else but you still root for success.

To dumb it down as simple as possible, you on a football team, coach and QB deiced a QB sneak is what we are going to run, do you hope the coach and QB fail just because you wanted a pass play? of course not lol

You can verbaly disagree
You can hope/vote for a new president / QB
but you always root for your own team because thier decesions were made because they wanted to WIN, they were trying to loose.

Its pretty simple actually, dont confuse disagreeing or wanting things done differently with hope he fails.
You realize if he fails WE ALL LOSE because then no progress is made for 4 years.

Just like the QB if he doesnt score what good is that? You still want him to score because it means WE ALL win.

A better analogy is this:

You know that covering yourself in pollen will attract bees. Your friend wants to cover herself in pollen because she thinks the bees will respond "peacefully", collecting pollen from her without stinging. You hope she fails in her experiment, because you feel confidently that it will end badly. People confident that Obama's policies will end badly are perfectly logical in hoping those policies fail. The illogical stance is to hope for success blindly, despite evidence that a policy will be largely negative.
 
but we did.

indeed we did. and if it weren't necessary to point to history in our attempts to shape future policy, that would be easier to ignore.
 
yeah. i have a choice. some dying old invalid hiding under a rock and a man who is purposely destroying everything this nation is.
ummmmm....yeah. i don't even have to think twice. bye-bye, barack.
I'm sure the Secret Service would love to 'meet' you.
 
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