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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I want him to succeed at turning this economy around. I want him to succeed at getting us out of this recession. I'm tired of people gloating (yes, gloating) because unemployment is still up and there are no jobs, and they lay it all at his feet and gloat.

    THAT'S what this thread is about. Not picking and choosing whether or not he's 'your guy' based on what he attempts to accomplish.

    I also wonder how those in the military can do this **** on a daily basis. I get freedom of speech, and I'll say it again. It's the absurd happiness and continuing potshots on a daily basis that lead me to believe that no matter how you slice it, you want Obama to fail and you are happy to see him do so and you can't wait to run your ass back here Every. Single. Time you find something that makes him look bad, so you can post it.

    And if that's not how you act? Then I'm not talking to you.
    It is hard not to be happy when reports show that Obama's policies aren't working. I'm not happy that unemployment is still high, and that job growth is stagnating. I'm worried for friends and family who are struggling to make it. But every time these reports come out they reiterate that his methods aren't working, and hopefully it will help a few people on the fence cross over to the other side come election time. If we don't point out the failures in time with those who point out "successes" we fail to provide information that might sway the vote. We also might inform somebody who staunchly supports those methods that they aren't successful, maybe swaying them or encouraging them to challenge their beliefs. Both sides do this, and it happens with every president. It isn't always successful, but it's one method that will probably continue to be used.

    Does it suck that people have to stoop to that kind of back and forth? Yeah, a little. The fact is, a good portion of the articles posted on this site are little more than opinion pieces or half-truths. Anybody can spin the news anyway they want to try making the situation more favorable to their view point, and unbiased reporting is almost dead. Everybody wants the majority to share their views, so they'll fight to show why their views are right. Some people will get "hurt" in the process. I'm not bothered by it being done to Bush, and I'm not bothered by it being done to Obama.

    Wanting Obama to help America succeed and wanting Obama's policies to succeed are separate issues. Sure, I want him to turn the economy around. But I recognize that his methods aren't going to do that (as best as I can tell). Because his methodology is wrong, I can't hope for it to be successful. Because he hasn't shown signs of switching methods, I can't hope for him to be successful. Wanting him to do something and realizing that his methods will prevent him from doing so isn't an attack on him or the country, it's an acceptance of reality.
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I think Obama is driving us off a cliff. Why would I want him to succeed in that?
    Tell me what he's done right, where he's succeeded, and I'll entertain your question.

    Oh wait. There wasn't a question.

    How, specifically and exactly Miss Mellie, is he "driving us off a cliff?"

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    BDBoop, your problem is that you're defining "fail" as the country is in total depression, everyone's out of work and starving, etc. That's not how everyone is defining it.


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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I want him to succeed at turning this economy around. I want him to succeed at getting us out of this recession. I'm tired of people gloating (yes, gloating) because unemployment is still up and there are no jobs, and they lay it all at his feet and gloat.
    ..........
    Obama's policies have made the economy worse. Many of us said that they would from the beginning, and now we see that they have. I believe it safe to say that wanting to see a policy not implemented is to want to see the person trying to implement it fail. Or, once implemented, we want it to be ended as quickly as possible as it only makes things worse for so long as it is in effect. It is not just a single policy, but the entire bigger government, more regulation, redistribution of wealth theme of Obama and the Democrats that makes us worse.

    Obama's polcies will not make the country better. We have proof everywhere now. Obama's Economic Experiment Has Failed -- Time to Get Back to What Works - FoxNews.com

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    I want Obama to fail

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by mellie
    BDBoop, your problem is that you're defining "fail" as the country is in total depression, everyone's out of work and starving, etc. That's not how everyone is defining it.
    ndeed. The President's agenda =/= America. If I thought for one minute that the President's agenda would benefit this country, obviously I would support him in it.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    I want some aspects of what Obama is trying to do fail. I want him to fail at increasing spending and I want his stimulus plan to fail in the form of repeal. I also want his healthcare plan to fail and be repealed so we can start over. I want America to succeed, but I believe in order for that to happen many of Obama's ideas and regulations must fail.
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    I voted other. I wish the President would do what is right for the economy, but as long as he keeps doing the wrong thing I appreciate that the economy has not over come his stupidity and did not recover. It serves as proof that keynesian economics fail.
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Guess I don't have half a brain then.

    I wanted him to fail at getting universal health care. I wanted him to fail at getting cap and trade. I wanted him to fail at getting a second "Stimulus" bill. I wanted him to fail at ending the Bush Tax Cuts. I wanted him to fail at trying KSM in NY.

    There's times I definitely wanted him to succeed as well. And there were times where I didn't feel strongly about the negative impact of his actions that indeed I HOPED he succeeded even though I was leery, such as in the ways he chose to engage Egypt. But you're damn right if there were times I absolutely wanted this President to fail, and if that gives me half a brain so be it.

    By the way, I wanted Bush to fail as well. I wanted him to fail at putting a restriction of rights into the constitution. I wanted him to fail at furthering government influence into our schools. I wanted him to fail at passing stimulus. I wanted him to fail with "comprehensive" immigration reform. Somehow, wanting HIM to fail on those things never really seemed to piss off liberals. Funny that.
    Do you ever wonder (because it's not just this board, it's nationwide and getting worse) what would happen if people stopped getting so locked into the party mindset? I'm 50. I was politics ignorant for the better part of - I don't remember anything mattering until Clinton. I don't remember caring that "your vote matters" until Bush. Even at that, it was like the difference between a casual gamer and raider. And even now, I'm just a talking head at a forum.

    Question for everybody. Why do I live here. Why am I not off somewhere at a liberal board, only hearing what I want to hear? Seriously.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    lol... well thanks for the welcome, fellow neanderthal. Perhaps if you weren't a neanderthal you would have noticed the timings of our postings. Your welcome wasnt in existence when I clicked to reply to your other post.


    And it's not BS. I'm fairly centered in my views actually leaning more left than right, I've never seen a president attacked as much as George Bush jr was by the far left.

    You just feel blue because your guy Barry is a failure and people are calling him on it, everyday. Rightfully so too.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Tell me what he's done right, where he's succeeded, and I'll entertain your question.
    Obama didn't raise taxes last December - I'll give him that. On national security, he has done a good job of generally following the Bush strategy; though I wish he had an actual "policy" that we could at least follow consistently. when he announced that he wanted to increase drilling, that was the right call - just as when he announced that no, not really, he'd changed his mind, that was the wrong one.

    Oh wait. There wasn't a question.

    How, specifically and exactly Miss Mellie, is he "driving us off a cliff?"

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    we've been headed for the cliff for some time. Obama mostly just stomped on the gas.
    Last edited by cpwill; 06-14-11 at 12:24 PM.

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