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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAProcess View Post
    Firstly, The Stimulus and Jobs

    Secondarily, For Example, when Nike chooses to hire Indians to make their shoes, because they demand less wages, that is a private sector American company choosing profits over America.

    U.S. companies that moved out of the U.S. to pay less taxes.

    Increase in overseas Jobs from Major American Companies at the cost of American Jobs

    Yes, it's partially the private sector's fault.
    Less taxes? Wouldn't that be one of those government polices that effects job creation? Hmm?

    Are you also aware that those international companies only make up about 5% of American based corporations?

    This new talking point ya'll came up with is getting worse and worse.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Less taxes? Wouldn't that be one of those government polices that effects job creation? Hmm?

    Are you also aware that those international companies only make up about 5% of American based corporations?

    This new talking point ya'll came up with is getting worse and worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wall Street Journal
    U.S. multinational corporations, the big brand-name companies that employ a fifth of all American workers, have been hiring abroad while cutting back at home, sharpening the debate over globalization's effect on the U.S. economy.

    Read more: US Companies: hire abroad and fire at home
    Also, note, I did not say it was entirely the fault of the private sector, only that it was partially the fault of the private sector.

    Continuously, it doesn't matter to what degree those international corporations make up a part of American Corporations, what matters is the amount of impact they have, as Major Representatives of the Private Sector, on American Jobs.

    That impact was 2.9 million or so lost in the face of 2.1 million gained Abroad. Nearly as much as Obama promised to save (and failed to do so entirely) with his stimulus package.

    It is Partially the Private Sector's fault. End of the line.

    Yes, less taxes is a government policy, but if we make them pay less taxes then the government gets less money from them for things like, oh, say The Military, or Roads, or Police, or Education, or Housing Subsidies.

    Wouldn't that be awesome? All so we can keep greedy people here! Wooo!

    It is not the burden of America to make things easier for American Corporations to the detriment of America. It is the Burden of American Corporations to be Loyal To America and to Bring Improvment to America. Yes, even a corporation has responsibility to the country in which it was founded and which supported it, and whose policies and laws allowed it to Become a multinational corporation in the first place! Otherwise they should not be allowed to call themselves American Corporations, and none of the ones on that list are anymore!
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    no. that's the defeatist outlook. the debt was manageable after bush f**ked it up. all of europe had similar debt.
    bush EXPANDED government. that was the problem. it wasn't tax cuts....it was spending. our government "representatives", within the past
    few decades, have become such totally corrupt whores. they will sell anything to support their own corruption.
    something could've been done after bush. but what did this anti-American piece of $h!t do? he tripled 8 years of bush spending in
    less than 2 years.
    the dollar is dying. china is the rising neo-superpower and no one cares.
    I am not a defender of Obama. I don't believe there was a better choice. His spending kept as it seems some things from collapse. The government since Reagan when out of control spending really took off has done nothing but waste. Recall Reagan said that debt meant nothing. Well here it is 2011 and the conservative icon was certainly wrong.
    Now if you think that there is someone out there that will cut spending and the size of government you might want to point that person out. Not one President has ever done that. Not one. Republican or Democrat not one of them has cut government. So when I hear Conservatives say they will cut it look back at Reagan Bush Bush and you see that is a crock. When the Dem's say they will they haven't done it either.
    But wanting a President to fail is asinine. That means you want the worst for your nation. If the persons policies don't work throw the person out. But you don't hope for failure.
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I am not a defender of Obama. I don't believe there was a better choice. His spending kept as it seems some things from collapse. The government since Reagan when out of control spending really took off has done nothing but waste. Recall Reagan said that debt meant nothing. Well here it is 2011 and the conservative icon was certainly wrong.
    Now if you think that there is someone out there that will cut spending and the size of government you might want to point that person out. Not one President has ever done that. Not one. Republican or Democrat not one of them has cut government. So when I hear Conservatives say they will cut it look back at Reagan Bush Bush and you see that is a crock. When the Dem's say they will they haven't done it either.
    But wanting a President to fail is asinine. That means you want the worst for your nation. If the persons policies don't work throw the person out. But you don't hope for failure.
    how do you correlate your beliefs here with the FACT that obama has outspent every US president in history combined?
    how does your mind fathom this kind of self-delusion as truth?
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    how do you correlate your beliefs here with the FACT that obama has outspent every US president in history combined?
    how does your mind fathom this kind of self-delusion as truth?
    He has spent to try and assist the economy. In some cases it has helped. In others it is just another waste of dollars like so many other wasted dollars before like Iraq for example. How did you justify that Bush spent more than all the presidents before him? It is the same thing they both have wasted money. I would rather see the money spent on rebuilding the US than tearing down Iraq and rebuilding that though.
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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Alert the Press! If Obama succeeds America will be nevermore! Talk about scare "the sky is falling" tactics. Give me a break
    Okay. Take a break.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAProcess View Post
    As PoTUS, Obama is quite easily the most important man to the future of America at the moment. His every job, his every idea, his every thought is for the betterment of our country.
    The leader of the regime is a tyrant.

    The one term president Obama has no interest in making America better. He is all about remaking America into a European-style socialist nation with Democrats in control as a defacto one party system reminiscent of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Do you want a good government job? Join the Communist party of the Uni..er, Democrat party. Do you want better health care? Join the Communist party of the Unit...er, Democrat party. With the death panel in place who will oppose him?

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    how do you correlate your beliefs here with the FACT that obama has outspent every US president in history combined?
    how does your mind fathom this kind of self-delusion as truth?
    And your source for the claim that Obama has outspent every US President in history "combined"?

    BTW, Congress, not the Executive Branch is responsible for appropriations.

    Bush's $10 Trillion tax cut is still alive and well. What role has it played in past and current national debt and deficits?

    And Bush's screw-ups were manageable when Obama took office? How so? Don't feel bashful about including sources and links.


    Quote Originally Posted by September 29, 2009
    With no fanfare and little notice, the national debt has grown by more than $4 trillion during George W. Bush's presidency.

    It's the biggest increase under any president in U.S history.

    On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That's a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush's watch.

    The bailout plan now pending in Congress could add hundreds of billions of dollars to the national debt – though President Bush said this morning he expects that over time, "much if not all" of the bailout money "will be paid back."

    But the government is taking no chances. Buried deep in the hundred pages of bailout legislation is a provision that would raise the statutory ceiling on the national debt to $11.315 trillion.

    It'll be the 7th time the debt limit has been raised during this administration.

    In fact it was just two months ago, on July 30, that President Bush signed the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, which contained a provision raising the debt ceiling to $10.615 trillion.
    Read more: Bush Administration Adds $4 Trillion To National Debt

    "Obama has spent more than every president in history combined"? That's pretty wild.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    I never root for any president to fail. Even if I disagree with them I hope they eventually do GREAT for the best country ever. I personally believe rooting for your president to fail is wanting the country to fail which equals = Anti-American. I do find it to be a double-standard some want President Obama to fail but rooted for President Bush and his policies are the one who put us where we are. Even Republicans admit "Obama didn't put us into this mess" instead they say he's adding to it. I still believe the Bush economy is where we are today.
    Last edited by PoliticalMama; 06-15-11 at 10:35 AM.

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    Re: I want to see the President fail

    It seems apparent that Liberals will never be able to comprehend the wide-held belief that if Obama is able to get his policies to prevail, that the country will worsen, and that consequently, if Obama is unable to implement his policies, that the country will be better off.

    To liberals, Obama cannot possibly be bad news. How pathetically naive.

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