View Poll Results: Which poison would you pick?

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  • Capitalism

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  • Socialism

    15 26.79%
  • Neither (Other)

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Thread: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    Why wasn't Centrist included in the poll? We've seen Communism fail and now we're watching Capitalism circle the drain. A little common sense might be in order.

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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Wrong. Monopolies are not natural aspects of the free market The vast majority of monopolies were granted monopoly status by the state. Can you name examples of natural monopolies?

    Corporatism is an example of government propping up businesses with welfare. It is not a result of the free market, it is a result of government.
    socialists and other statists always figure the best way to prevent the concentration of wealth and power into the hands of a few corporations is to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of one big government

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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Me too, but I know precisely why. Good one!
    Because it's hilariously awesome, that's why.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    I would prefer to live above anarchism. No stinking rulers for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    I said neither. Capitalism in it's pure form exploits the poor to benefit the rich. Communism is unattainable without a one-party state using force to quash the Kulaks. Even then, maybe not.

    Basically, I'm against any system that oppresses or exploits people.

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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I said neither. Capitalism in it's pure form exploits the poor to benefit the rich. Communism is unattainable without a one-party state using force to quash the Kulaks. Even then, maybe not.

    Basically, I'm against any system that oppresses or exploits people.
    You might as well blow your brains out now and get to heaven now. I don't know if man is capable of building any system where someone or some percentage of the human population won't figure out a way to oppress or exploit another percent of the population.

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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    communism is childish pipe dream. socialism is little more than communism-lite. capitalism is unrealistic simply because
    money consolidates and then kills the free market. capitalism transforms money into government control. no matter which system is
    established...it all runs a certain cycle. a steady incline...a period of social gratification...and then a decline into a "revolution" of
    one kind or another. no social philosophy works without imperialism, though. without imperialism? culture stagnates and regresses,
    leaving an opening for a more enterprising philosophy to take hold.
    “The ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.”
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    Re: Pick your Poison - Communism or Capitalism? (Or Socialism?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's actually a mix of both. If I make the conscious decision to jump off a cliff then obviously my decision determined the outcome. If someone pushes me off then obviously it did not.
    How did you get to the cliff? Why are you standing near a cliff with someone that wants to push you off? You made choices that got you there. That's the problem with so many people. They don't see past the here and now. They only see what they did 10 seconds ago and what they got them. In that respect, so many people are no different than puppies.

    But you completely mischaracterized what I was trying to say. I never suggested that people make great decisions day in and day out or that every decision pans out. I suggested that the freedom to make decisions, good or bad, is better than having a known outcome.


    You cannot apparently understand that even if someone makes a good decision, that bad consequences can still follow, and that bad consequences can follow completely independent of any decision I make. Bad things happen to good people and it has nothing to do with the decisions they make.
    I understand fully, but that is the straw-man story line you have chosen and you refuse to see otherwise.

    Your entire belief system would be undermined by such a basic fact of life.



    This statement doesn't even mean anything.
    It only "doesn't even mean anything" if you choose to ignore the heart of my argument.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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