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    Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    This is more or less a philosophical poll.

    Can people be "better" than others? What is better? Better in general? Superior in general? Or only better/superior in select aspects?

    I have heard people say they are better than others. I see people with immense IQs, memory, or physique. Some have great discipline and rigidity. Others seek wisdom or endurance. Are there those who are superior in general!

    I ask because I observe society. I watch them.

    There are many in our society who are proud. So proud. Privileged wealthy people. The upper crust echelons. The typical white tea partier who makes around $250,000 or more. The socialite. The wealthy businessman. The arrogant jock. The know-it-all student. Lawyers, doctors, etc. Actors, media stars, etc. The list goes on and on.

    Such proud, vain people they are.

    I think no one is "better" than others. Before you concur, I wonder what kind of person you are, and life you lead. Somewhere deep inside, you probably think you're better than others. You argue intensely to "win" and persuade the masses. Because you think you're better...

    You never been proud?

    What do you think?
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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    I am better than everyone.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Definitely, if one person has better aggregate behavior, intelligence, etc. than another, they are "better."
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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Each person has his/her own path. "Better" is a relative term. Every person is a master of at least one lesson that we might learn. Often the lesson we must learn is uncomfortable and often we choose not to learn it and as a part of doing so we despise the master. We too are masters, often unknowingly, of lessons.










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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I am better than everyone.
    i am also :

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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    I think it is certainly possible to be better (or worse) than most in certain respects. I think there are very rare cases of people who are over-all better or worse people than most over-all. But I'd put that on a very steep bell curve. I think it's a pretty rare thing. The reason why I think it's rare can be explained by how I see myself.

    I do think there are areas where I am considerably better than the general population. However, I pay for that by having other areas where I'm considerably worse. I see this in most people who are well above average in some respect - they tend to be unbalanced people.

    It's as though there is some sort of standard of over-all ability and goodness that is common to nearly all people. They comply to it by either being rather average at most things, or by being exceptionally good at some and exceptionally bad at others. But I don't see too many people who are exceptionally good or exceptionally bad over-all.
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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Definitely, an individual can be "better" than another. That difference may be impossible to quantify, however.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    I honestly think there are degrees of sentience or self awareness. I think everyone here would agree that babies aren't self aware in the same way that adults are. As you get older, you become more self aware, but some people never progress past a certain point. These people are the blind followers who never really make any important choices for themselves. Their path in life is entirely defined by other people. I would say that self awareness is a good way to define "better."
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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post

    You never been proud?

    What do you think?
    Overall then no. You can be better looking than someone, better at doing something than someone else, more resistant to something than someone else or be more talented than someone else. But that doesn't mean that person overall is better than someone.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Can a Person be "better" than Others?

    Thinking oneself better than others is unattractive in a friend... but deadly dangerous when those who think themselves elite rule a nation:


    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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