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Thread: The Civil War

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You made that clear when the only argument you could muster was to put words into my mouth. What's next? You gonna call me a racist/homophobe?
    You just compared owning slaves to owning horses. You tell me.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    They could have worked something out.
    Alotta people--North and South--wanted to work something out, but there were too many fire brands on both sides.

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You just compared owning slaves to owning horses. You tell me.
    What with your complete miconception of what I'm trying to tell you, I already knew that was coming.

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    First of all, let's clarify who you mean when you say "the south wanted no part of the new controls." You're referring to the governments of southern states which were not democratically elected and did not reflect the will of the people living in those states (and I mean ALL of the people living in those states). And even if they did, too bad. Human rights are not and should not be subject to a popular vote.
    Seccession was put to a statewide referendum. So yes, seccession was the will of the people.

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    Re: The Civil War

    I'd rather be an organic farmer, lol.

    If I must I'd fight the south on basis of slavery alone.

    I dunno if ElCid is implying that fighting for the North was to fight for liberalism and immorality.

    It's too bad diplomacy couldn't happen to prevent the bloodshed.

    To be blunt it's easy for us to make such decisions because we live in this day and age. I'm sure our opinions would be different if we were from that time period.

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Alotta people--North and South--wanted to work something out, but there were too many fire brands on both sides.
    Hmmm... this I can kinda agree with. You had the extreme abolitionists on one side, and the extreme secessionists on the other running the show. Though I think the Civil War may have been inevitable, it might have been stopped if some strong moderate had been able to step forward. Problem was, if you weren't strongly for one side, you were demonized by that side. Hmmm... anyone see the parallels to the idiot extremists from both sides, today?
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    This is piss poor argument. First, democratically elected officials has nothing to do with a government, but a form of government.
    When you say "The South" wanted this or "The South" wanted that, you're referring to an entity that did not represent the people living there. So when you say that "their solution was peaceful and it solved all their problems," that's only true in the narrow sense that it solved the problems of the illegitimate GOVERNMENTS in those states. It didn't solve the problems of the majority of the people.

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    Second, no matter the government you aren't going to get 100% approval of anything. Third, human rights as you know them weren't international issues like they are today.
    They were an issue in THIS country, as they should have been. And you don't have the right to take away someone else's rights just because you can muster a majority vote anyway.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Seccession was put to a statewide referendum. So yes, seccession was the will of the people.
    Really. And how many slaves got to vote in those referenda? How many women voted in them?
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To be blunt it's easy for us to make such decisions because we live in this day and age. I'm sure our opinions would be different if we were from that time period.
    Yeah, this is very on target.
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    Re: The Civil War

    I don't think the United States should be one unified country.
    It really wasn't supposed to be anyway.

    I support secession.
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