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Thread: The Civil War

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Slavery would've died out, eventually, anyway. Even Brazil gave it up, late in the 19th Century.
    Had you been a slave, you would not have that that repugnant attitude..
    And there are nations (so-called) that still have not given up slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Just wow.
    Care to tell me how that was wrong? If black slaves weren't cheaper, then they wouldn't have been used.

    They WERE cheaper, and thus they WERE used.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with race. Do you honestly think a businessman would spend hundreds (alot back then) more for a black slave than a chinese slave because, "I don't much like me none o dem dere black savages" No. He wouldn't. He'd buy the cheaper slaves and keep more profits.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Care to tell me how that was wrong? If black slaves weren't cheaper, then they wouldn't have been used.

    They WERE cheaper, and thus they WERE used.
    So what? This has nothing to do with my statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    It has absolutely nothing to do with race. Do you honestly think a businessman would spend hundreds (alot back then) more for a black slave than a chinese slave because, "I don't much like me none o dem dere black savages" No. He wouldn't. He'd buy the cheaper slaves and keep more profits.
    Again has nothing to do with my statement.

    Does not matter what color they happened to be, they were black. The South AGAIN wanted to keep the institution alive, the North did not.

    The South got it's ass kicked, end of story.



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    Re: The Civil War

    Somehow I knew the thread was eventually get down to this. And here we are.

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    Re: The Civil War

    This stupid yhread deserves a stupid answer. I am from south Carolina and love my home state bit the north winning helped make America a better place. Otherwise this is a retarded thread.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
    No, Redress. Strategy can be both of an overall campaign sense or a battle sense. Remember... battles are not fought as one singular event. With armies the size of these, a strategy must be prepared to fight a battle, too.
    Strategy is used to fight a collection of battle...a campaign. Tactics are used to fight battle one at a time. Redress nailed it.
    My exposure to strategy and tactics was through my study of the Great Patriotic War. The Soviet Union dealt with the same issues you two are debating. They added one more:
    Strategy: Driven by the goals of the war or campaign (what is the point of the fight?)
    Operational Art: Ties strategy to tactics (where are we going to fight, with what resources and at what time?)
    Tactics: How are we going to conduct the fight? Will we attack, defend, delay, withdraw?

    Of course, long after I retired I discovered that the Soviet Union had drawn on Western European experiences to develop those concepts they worked out.

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Neither. I would have been a draft dodger. The Civil War was a complete waste and simply should never have been fought. It's a gross oversimplification to say things like "the North was fighting to free slaves" or "the South was fighting for states rights." The causes of the war were too numerous and complex to be reduced to one or two major issues. None of the issues were worth the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men on both sides of the conflict, in my opinion. The South would have eventually had to change its plantation-based economic system; it simply was unsustainable. The Southern states should not have broken away from the Union, but the North should not have resorted to force to keep them from seceding.
    My great-great grandfather was conscripted into the Confederacy right off his farm in Alabama. Leaving my great-great grandmother to care for their 4 kids and the farm.
    He developed either pneumonia or measles and being too sick was left behind the troops in a battle. Was never heard from again and presumed died or the Yankees got him.
    My great-great grandmother in the meantime had the advancing Yankees come through and take all her chickens and food for the Yankee troops.
    They suffered miserably from this war. My family wasn't really too much a fan with either side.

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