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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    He wasn't necessarily screwed over by Hood, though Hood himself was an aweful general to have in charge of the Army of Tennesse.
    I guess in all fairness, Hood wasn't the same man he was prior to Gettysburg. If John Bell Hood that attacked The Devils Den had commanded the Army of Tennessee at Franklin, then the battle of Franklin probably would have never taken place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Suart hadn't screwed the pooch, when he was supposed to be screening the ANV's movement into Pennsylvania, Gettysburg may have had a much different outcome.
    I did a lengthy paper on Gettysburg in college. I agree 100%. Lee had practically no information about Union troop movements because of Stuart's raids. Lee would never have fought that battle when/where it happened. Though the terrain was good for strategy, Lee could not choose his positions before engaging, something that marked a lot of his prior successes.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you have the whole southern OoB memorized?

    No, just most. Ready to talk about Dick Taylor and Jo Shelby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I guess in all fairness, Hood wasn't the same man he was prior to Gettysburg. If John Bell Hood that attacked The Devils Den had commanded the Army of Tennessee at Franklin, then the battle of Franklin probably would have never taken place.
    I don't know about that. Yes, Hood changed after Gettysburg... similar to Ewell after Groveton, but Hood was always a gambler and preferred a head on approach to tactics. Good for a brigade commander, Disasterous for an army commander.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Suart hadn't screwed the pooch, when he was supposed to be screening the ANV's movement into Pennsylvania, Gettysburg may have had a much different outcome.
    This is 100 % true.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, just most. Ready to talk about Dick Taylor and Jo Shelby?
    Two of the best in "Kirbysmithdom".
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I did a lengthy paper on Gettysburg in college. I agree 100%. Lee had practically no information about Union troop movements because of Stuart's raids. Lee would never have fought that battle when/where it happened. Though the terrain was good for strategy, Lee could not choose his positions before engaging, something that marked a lot of his prior successes.
    Also, Stuart's failure aside, there were failures by Lee's commanders on the field to take the initiative at key moments as the battle began to develop. Ewell not taking Cemetary Hill is a prime example.

    As I've mentioned before and as James McPherson wrote, "Had Jackson still lived, he undoubtedly would have found it practicable. But Ewell was not Jackson."

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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I did a lengthy paper on Gettysburg in college. I agree 100%. Lee had practically no information about Union troop movements because of Stuart's raids. Lee would never have fought that battle when/where it happened. Though the terrain was good for strategy, Lee could not choose his positions before engaging, something that marked a lot of his prior successes.
    Grr...the terrain was good for tactics...

    Strategy = campaign

    Tactics = battle
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, just most. Ready to talk about Dick Taylor and Jo Shelby?
    Not yet actually. Finishing my WW1 book, then a Waterloo book, then going to start on the Civil War, probably going with 1 or 2 books on each battle, chronologically. I get frustrated with books on a whole war, since they skimp on the details I am most interested on, the tactics of each battle.
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    Re: The Civil War

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Two of the best in "Kirbysmithdom".
    Dick Taylor was probably the most travelled general of the war...on either side.

    I have a watch from the period that has, "Richard Taylor", inscribed inside the cover. I've always wondered. Ya know?

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