View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Hey, I have always been for freedom. If people want to eat unhealthily and they can afford their healthcare bills, I say ... eat as much artery clogging food as you want. If you can make up for the energy that you use by cultivating enough non government funded natural unlimited (e.g. solar, wind, water etc.) energy ... be as wasteful as you want with your light bulbs. If you can pay for your medical bill when you fall off your motorcycle while not waring a helmet .. ride without a helmet as much as you want. The point is .. as long as you can pay for your expenses without using up more resources than needed .. do what you want. Of course, this means government regulations ... unfortunately, if people are going to be using non-renewable resources and relying on the state for healthcare, they should not be doing things that would be unnecessarily costly (this includes both welfare for the rich and the poor).
    So, now the tyrants not only want me to pay for the goods and services I use, but also want to force me to replace the items I purchase. Why didn't you say that I had to replace the food I ate? How about the material for the clothes my family wears? How about replacing the house that I live in? Should I now be forced by the tyrants to replace all these things and the other things that I purchase?

    FREEDOM!

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The EPA doesn't have much, if any say, about finance or economics issues.
    This was passed by Congress which does have a say.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This was passed by Congress which does have a say.
    My bad, I was thinking that this was solely a regulatory issue.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    So, now the tyrants not only want me to pay for the goods and services I use, but also want to force me to replace the items I purchase. Why didn't you say that I had to replace the food I ate? How about the material for the clothes my family wears? How about replacing the house that I live in? Should I now be forced by the tyrants to replace all these things and the other things that I purchase?

    FREEDOM!
    Yes "freedom" as you would like to call it .. means "doing what one wants" .. and you're starting to get the picture, whatever one consumes that is not a renewable resource, one should replace, anything else is selfish .. I sure wouldn't want my children to endure more hardship simply because I could not handle not being wasteful .. "um .. yeah, uh, son, about that, I just wanted to do what I wanted to do .. you know freedom and all that .. you're an adult now, you're free to be as wasteful as you want with the grand pitiful wasted resources that I have left for you .. just remember son, it's all in the name of freedom" ... jeesh! give me a break! I don't think some people realize how selfish they look when they praise freedom in the "I'll do whatever I want" sense and "who cares about wasting our sons' and daughters' resources" ... do you people have children? Do you love them?
    Last edited by MusicAdventurer; 08-13-11 at 11:39 PM.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    I dont think they should have been banned...I have flourescents throughout my house in and out..more because of heat than anything else...I live in florida..
    Theres a ridiculous procedure to get rid of fluorescents and I dont know anyone that follows it...they throw them in the trash when theyre done....

    Eventually this will be a moot issue...Leds will be the big thing...I remember when flourescents first came out...they were ridiculously expensive and waay to dim...the same is with leds now...they will get alot better and cheaper and they will definitely replace other bulbs

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Yes "freedom" as you would like to call it .. means "doing what one wants" .. and you're starting to get the picture, whatever one consumes that is not a renewable resource, one should replace, anything else is selfish .. I sure wouldn't want my children to endure more hardship simply because I could not handle not being wasteful .. "um .. yeah, uh, son, about that, I just wanted to do what I wanted to do .. you know freedom and all that .. you're an adult now, you're free to be as wasteful as you want with the grand pitiful wasted resources that I have left for you .. just remember son, it's all in the name of freedom" ... jeesh! give me a break! I don't think some people realize how selfish they look when they praise freedom in the "I'll do whatever I want" sense and "who cares about wasting our sons' and daughters' resources" ... do you people have children? Do you love them?
    I'm sorry, but I do not accept the Chicken Little ideology. Tyrants promote it to justify their misdeeds. Do I feel guilty about using a particular lightbulb? Absolutely not! Nope. How much natural resources have you produced to repay society for the gasoline you have used in your car? If you haven't repaid your "debt" to society, please don't lecture me about using a lightbulb. If you have, then 99% have not. Virtually the entire society is guilty of what you believe to be "selfish" behavior. Balderdash! And... Folderol! <---- I threw that in for the fun of it. LOL!
    Last edited by LesGovt; 08-14-11 at 12:51 AM.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Its the land of arbitrary laws.
    Oh, please government, help me choose which blubs are best for meI surely cannot decide.
    We need more federal/state bureaucrats to help us with this issue!
    Oh, please government, save us from making a choice by ourselves.
    'The whole universe is going to die!'

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, I guess wanting freedom is stupid. There is a difference in the lighting and the cost of the products. If I want to be stupid and purchase an inefficient lightbulb, I should be able to do so. It is time for all of the unstupid people to understand that us stupid people want our freedom and we don't want big government slugs to take it away from us.

    Using your standard, everyone should be riding bicycles. It uses much less energy that cars or even horses. And, unlike your smart lightbulbs, the bicycle costs much less to purchase and operate. Are you arguing for banning all automotive products and replacing them with unicyles and bicycles? If not, why not? Come on! Be true to your beliefs! You want less energy used. Bicycles use less energy. You want less polution. Bicycles cause less polution. Please be consistent and tell me that you favor using bicycles and want to ban all automotive products.
    If I wanted the freedom to burn my garbage in the middle of a city park, would that be stupid?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If I wanted the freedom to burn my garbage in the middle of a city park, would that be stupid?
    Yes it would.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Yes "freedom" as you would like to call it .. means "doing what one wants" .. and you're starting to get the picture, whatever one consumes that is not a renewable resource, one should replace, anything else is selfish .. I sure wouldn't want my children to endure more hardship simply because I could not handle not being wasteful .. "um .. yeah, uh, son, about that, I just wanted to do what I wanted to do .. you know freedom and all that .. you're an adult now, you're free to be as wasteful as you want with the grand pitiful wasted resources that I have left for you .. just remember son, it's all in the name of freedom" ... jeesh! give me a break! I don't think some people realize how selfish they look when they praise freedom in the "I'll do whatever I want" sense and "who cares about wasting our sons' and daughters' resources" ... do you people have children? Do you love them?
    I really hate this pitiful argument. Resources running out is not the end of the world, it doesn't mean the our children's lives will be horrible. Everyone that is makes this argument always forgets to mention people are always aware of this kind of thing way before it ever actually occurs and there will be people working on a solution way before it ever comes to be. Your argument is basically fear over nothing to try to say that restricting freedom is a good thing. Its a crap argument.

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