View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Thanks to President Bush and Congress it will soon be illegal tobuy and sell incandecent light bulbs! Do you care?

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    I like my regular bulbs. They are cheap,I can throw them in the trash when they break or burn out and they are instantly bright.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I like my regular bulbs. They are cheap,I can throw them in the trash when they break or burn out and they are instantly bright.
    I throw the hazmat bulbs in the trash like the others. Broke one, swept it up and tossed it like tons of others have and will, and will continue to do so.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    There's no reason to prefer the old bulbs except sheer bloodymindedness. Everyone would have switched over eventually.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I like my regular bulbs. They are cheap,I can throw them in the trash when they break or burn out and they are instantly bright.
    LED versions cost more initially, but over their life will save a few hundred dollars each.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    There's no reason to prefer the old bulbs except sheer bloodymindedness. Everyone would have switched over eventually.
    If that is true then why the heavy hand of a busybody government? Did they have to make it a law that I could not purchase a 1990s technology computer any time after 2005? No. The market, people's desires, and the willingness of a company to provide a technology were sufficient.

    This busybody approach to government where some bureaucrat somewhere determies what you will or will not be allowed to buy is tyranny. It must stop. We must stop it. Ballots first.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you see the difference between you having a choice to make and a government busybody telling you that you must purchase "this" and won't be allowed an longer to purchase "that" all based on ideology? See how far you get if your choice is not approved by a government busybody.
    As I said, I don't really care what the government says. I already buy bulbs that meet the new requirements, so it doesn't affect me in the slightest. For the most part, I don't get too upset just based on principle.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    LED versions cost more initially, but over their life will save a few hundred dollars each.
    That is true but right now is it cheaper to buy thirty 60-100 watt incandescent bulbs(which are $2.50 or less for a pack of eight) for my house right now which cost probably about ten bucks a month or less in electricity(because a lot of those bulbs are in the bathroom,hallway,kitchen and other rooms that are rarely used) than it is to buy thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs(40 dollars and up per bulbhttp://www.earthtechproducts.com/p2637.html). Ten bucks a month for 10 years is 1,200, 40 dollars for twelve 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs is 1,200 or more and that is not even counting the cost of electricity or a problem that may occur. Right now the price of the LED bulbs does not justify me spending 1,200 or more on light bulbs( even if I never have to replace them against),especially since in five or ten years the prices will go down even further. IF I left those 30 light bulbs on in my house for 24 hours a day which would cost me about a 156 bucks a month then it would be justified buying thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs.

    Its like those hybrid cars.Good and actually cost efficient for people who do a lot of traveling by car, but not so good for people who drive a few miles to work a day and once a week going to walmart,shopping mall or grocery store that is a few miles away.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    I put florescents in my outdoor security lights and it has saved me every penny of the cost and then some. But I don't see any reason to require others to do the same. Yes, I like florescent bulbs...no, I don't see any reason to force that preference on others.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is true but right now is it cheaper to buy thirty 60-100 watt incandescent bulbs(which are $2.50 or less for a pack of eight) for my house right now which cost probably about ten bucks a month or less in electricity(because a lot of those bulbs are in the bathroom,hallway,kitchen and other rooms that are rarely used) than it is to buy thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs(40 dollars and up per bulbhttp://www.earthtechproducts.com/p2637.html). Ten bucks a month for 10 years is 1,200, 40 dollars for twelve 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs is 1,200 or more and that is not even counting the cost of electricity or a problem that may occur. Right now the price of the LED bulbs does not justify me spending 1,200 or more on light bulbs( even if I never have to replace them against),especially since in five or ten years the prices will go down even further. IF I left those 30 light bulbs on in my house for 24 hours a day which would cost me about a 156 bucks a month then it would be justified buying thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs.

    Its like those hybrid cars.Good and actually cost efficient for people who do a lot of traveling by car, but not so good for people who drive a few miles to work a day and once a week going to walmart,shopping mall or grocery store that is a few miles away.
    You are comparing the upfront cost of incandescent, with the most expensive upfront cost for replacements. Compact florescent can be gotten for under 10 a piece, and for places like you mention, will probably never need to be replaced.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is true but right now is it cheaper to buy thirty 60-100 watt incandescent bulbs(which are $2.50 or less for a pack of eight) for my house right now which cost probably about ten bucks a month or less in electricity(because a lot of those bulbs are in the bathroom,hallway,kitchen and other rooms that are rarely used) than it is to buy thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs(40 dollars and up per bulbhttp://www.earthtechproducts.com/p2637.html). Ten bucks a month for 10 years is 1,200, 40 dollars for twelve 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs is 1,200 or more and that is not even counting the cost of electricity or a problem that may occur. Right now the price of the LED bulbs does not justify me spending 1,200 or more on light bulbs( even if I never have to replace them against),especially since in five or ten years the prices will go down even further. IF I left those 30 light bulbs on in my house for 24 hours a day which would cost me about a 156 bucks a month then it would be justified buying thirty 60-100 watt equivalent LED bulbs.

    Its like those hybrid cars.Good and actually cost efficient for people who do a lot of traveling by car, but not so good for people who drive a few miles to work a day and once a week going to walmart,shopping mall or grocery store that is a few miles away.
    Walmart sells 100W equivalent spiral lights (the icecream cone ones) at 12 for $32. That is a far cry from $40 a piece. They also have a 36pk of 60W equivalent for about $52. And they have site to store service for free so if your nearest Wally World doesn't have them in stock, just order them online and get them sent (although every Walmart I've been in the last 10 years has had these bulbs).

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    I don't understand what the problem is with these bulbs. They save money overall and they are better for the environment. They are a little more expensive, but not really to the point that picking between the two kinds will cause a huge hardship for the vast majority of people.

    And I am a huge clutz and have dropped these bulbs a few times in the past and still have not had one break on me. I have had plenty of incandescent bulbs break on me though. They seem to break from being dropped very small distances.
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