View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
  • OTHER / I dont know / Chimichanga

    4 5.26%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    If only you realized how ignorantly overgeneralized your argument is. "Oh the agony of having any restrictions on my choices. I should be free to buy crack and hand grenades."
    Why shouldn't you be able to buy crack and hand grenades again?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why shouldn't you be able to buy crack and hand grenades again?
    beer + guns = stupid idea < appalling idea = crack + grenades

    If you do not believe this inequality holds, I'd be happy to let you test it yourself. We can declare an area for those who want no restrictions and observe whether things are working in harmony in 10 years. This is the physicist or statistician approach.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So you are saying they didn't crash into you? Where is the crime then?

    Tell me what you think the General Welfare clause means so I can correct you.
    To a constitutional conservative the first clause of Article I, section 8 is about the power of taxation and the phrases of "general welfare" and "common defense" are simply general terms about what expenditures are for and offer no specific authority to Congress. The specifics for expenditures follow the first clause.

    To a constitutionally challenged liberal, the "general welfare" clause means whatever they want it to mean. That has been proven here over and over again. But that is a discussion for the portion of this site that covers the Constitution.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why shouldn't you be able to buy crack and hand grenades again?
    I agree that a man should allowed to be stupid.
    But the same man should not allowed to be dangerous....to society...to himself, I do not care....reduce the surplus population.
    So NO to the energy wasting bulbs, addictive drugs, and the weapons of ,IMO, mass destruction.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    To a constitutional conservative the first clause of Article I, section 8 is about the power of taxation and the phrases of "general welfare" and "common defense" are simply general terms about what expenditures are for and offer no specific authority to Congress. The specifics for expenditures follow the first clause.

    To a constitutionally challenged liberal, the "general welfare" clause means whatever they want it to mean. That has been proven here over and over again. But that is a discussion for the portion of this site that covers the Constitution.
    It never ceases to amaze me when people consider the constitution some kind of holy document. Seriously people? Did some otherworldly creatures create this holy text? Where they not capable of greed? Where they fully capable of predicting the future and the needs therein? Oh yeah ... those guys were totally against slavery too right? Come on people. Try arguing from an ethical and economic standpoint for once ... instead of falling back on some dead guys who made a pretty good document for their time. Jeesh!

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me when people consider the constitution some kind of holy document. Seriously people? Did some otherworldly creatures create this holy text? Where they not capable of greed? Where they fully capable of predicting the future and the needs therein? Oh yeah ... those guys were totally against slavery too right? Come on people. Try arguing from an ethical and economic standpoint for once ... instead of falling back on some dead guys who made a pretty good document for their time. Jeesh!
    Thank you for proving my point.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me when people consider the constitution some kind of holy document. Seriously people? Did some otherworldly creatures create this holy text? Where they not capable of greed? Where they fully capable of predicting the future and the needs therein? Oh yeah ... those guys were totally against slavery too right? Come on people. Try arguing from an ethical and economic standpoint for once ... instead of falling back on some dead guys who made a pretty good document for their time. Jeesh!
    I can only imagine what you would say if you were a liberal.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me when people consider the constitution some kind of holy document. Seriously people? Did some otherworldly creatures create this holy text? Where they not capable of greed? Where they fully capable of predicting the future and the needs therein? Oh yeah ... those guys were totally against slavery too right? Come on people. Try arguing from an ethical and economic standpoint for once ... instead of falling back on some dead guys who made a pretty good document for their time. Jeesh!
    Many will have a harder time accepting this than mathematicians did when Godel proved the Incompleteness Theorem. He showed that the axioms we build arithmetic from are insufficient for deducing every true statement about arithmetic. For years, mathematicians had believed Peano's axioms were a solid enough foundation to build from. This demonstrates how even if a majority accept something, we should accept if those wiser can find flaws and correct us.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Nice job again for Washington DC they traded a few cents saving in power costs for a life time of ground pollution. The chemicals in the new light bulbs is very toxic.

    They also created a bunch of new jobs in China while killing jobs here.

    This another case of showing stupidity in spades.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Nice job again for Washington DC they traded a few cents saving in power costs for a life time of ground pollution. The chemicals in the new light bulbs is very toxic.

    They also created a bunch of new jobs in China while killing jobs here.

    This another case of showing stupidity in spades.
    OK I've heard this claim several times, and I would like to see some verifiable evidence that this 2007 energy bill, as passed by REPUBLICAN George W. Bush, indisputably creates a net deficit of jobs.

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