View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Yeah ya think? This is a ****ing BAN on incandescent light bulbs! Its total bull****. I should be able to buy any kind of ****ing light bulb I want! Luckily I still can. But not in California. After they run out, thats it. And its total crap.
    It's not a ban on incandescent lightbulbs, as your own sources show. The reason I should have kept reading is Whovian already showed that in point of fact, by your very own sources, incandescent bulbs are not banned. Cussing and getting all bent out of shape over a ban that is in fact not in place is silly.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's not a ban on incandescent lightbulbs, as your own sources show. The reason I should have kept reading is Whovian already showed that in point of fact, by your very own sources, incandescent bulbs are not banned. Cussing and getting all bent out of shape over a ban that is in fact not in place is silly.
    Redress, put on your thinking cap please. They are not going to allow new orders to refill empty store shelves. After the current stock is gone... thats it. You wont be able to buy the bulbs because ofwhy? What do you call that Redress? Think really hard.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Redress, put on your thinking cap please. They are not going to allow new orders to refill empty store shelves. After the current stock is gone... thats it. You wont be able to buy the bulbs because ofwhy? What do you call that Redress? Think really hard.
    In point of fact, they can refill the shelves with new incandescent light bulbs, as both the link I provided, and the links you provided make clear.

    Go, read the stuff quoted in this thread, notice how they all agree on one point, that incandescent bulbs are not banned.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I don't really care about light bulb rules and regulations.
    Is it because you find freedom tedious and liberty boring?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Changing the standards might as well ban the product. It can't be sold without being against the law. I would call that effectively a ban.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In point of fact, they can refill the shelves with new incandescent light bulbs, as both the link I provided, and the links you provided make clear.

    Go, read the stuff quoted in this thread, notice how they all agree on one point, that incandescent bulbs are not banned.
    Can one recognize the onset of tyranny when one sees it?
    Strictly speaking, it’s also true that the rules are neither mandates nor bans. They’re standards: We don’t tell you how to reduce the amount of energy your light bulb consumes. We just tell you that it can’t use more than a certain amount.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Changing the standards might as well ban the product. It can't be sold without being against the law. I would call that effectively a ban.
    Seriously, read the sources. They can now make incandescent bulbs that conform to the standards. The technology(interesting side note) was perfected based on lighting used for reef aquariums, where they needed high intensity bulbs that put out less heat. IN point of fact, you can buy the new incandescent bulbs at Home Depot that conform to the standard.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Can one recognize the onset of tyranny when one sees it?

    It is time to clean out the stables.
    So standards for lightbulbs is the beginning of tyranny. Good thing that standards for cars wasn't anything like standards for bulbs, or we would be in a tyranny already. And those furnaces, the standards for those are completely different, and it's a good thing, kept us safe from tyranny. And standards for houses. That has to be different or tyranny would have arrived decades ago. And standards for cell phones, and standards for...well, you get the idea.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So standards for lightbulbs is the beginning of tyranny. Good thing that standards for cars wasn't anything like standards for bulbs, or we would be in a tyranny already.
    Great. let's add even more examples. I applaud you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And those furnaces, the standards for those are completely different, and it's a good thing, kept us safe from tyranny.
    If there is industrial buy-in for a standard that allows for interoperability and moves us away from proprietary systems the market has shown that to be a good thing. When politicians sit around a table and decide a car ought to get 60 MPG people end up dying needlessly. One make sense. The other is clearly tyranny.
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    And standards for houses. That has to be different or tyranny would have arrived decades ago. And standards for cell phones, and standards for...well, you get the idea.
    I do. Did government select the winners and losers? When government does then it is tyrannical. This is hard. This requires wisdom.
    Building codes based on engineering tend to be good. Building codes created by busybodies are tyranny.

    From a personal example: when I built my house, for my wife and I, we have a very nice back deck that runs all 55 feet of the width of our house. On one side we had three stairs going down but no hand rail. One one side we have a retaining wall and on the other side we have the house. The bureaucrat that came out said I had to have hand rails. We put them in to occupy and took them out because they are not necessary. Next point. I have a dual set of retaining walls uphill from my garage. I told the county bureaucrat that the landscaping would fill that space with hard to penetrate bushes. He insisted that I put up a fence to keep children from falling off. There are no children. Mine are 30 and 27. They do not live with me. But before I could move in I had to damage the nice brickwork to put up a fence. Total cost, including labor to meet idiotic, tyrannical code in time for me to occupy the house, about 1K. Tyranny.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    It's reminiscent of Obamacare in an inverse way. Iirc with Obamacare, you have to get that insurance. With these lightbulbs supposedly it's illegal to buy them. They are similar because government dictates what you will and won't buy.
    Last edited by Wake; 06-11-11 at 01:50 AM.

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