View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
  • OTHER / I dont know / Chimichanga

    4 5.26%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Being better doesn't mean it'll be an easy sell or certain laws are not needed. Cars weren't an easy sell and there was rampart opposition to their use in North American and Europe. When governments across the world started passing laws regarding the creation of roads, speed and what was the called "street life"(street vendors, shoe shiners etc), this all changed.
    I don't want to ruin the civility of the discussion between Phys251 and me, so I will hold my comments here until after he has replied to me.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I don't want to ruin the civility of the discussion between Phys251 and me, so I will hold my comments here until after he has replied to me.
    It's always good to poke holes in somebody's argument and blind belief in the 'free market', whatever that means.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I always find it funny when Libertarians and the like think they have a right to pollute the planet the rest of us have to share with them.
    No, I think you should stop driving a car and ride a bicycle. You do not have a right to pollute. Stop it! Now!

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's always good to poke holes in somebody's argument and blind belief in the 'free market', whatever that means.
    And you think you did? Oops. Sorry. I cannot say anything further. I do have a question. Have you never heard of the free market?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No, I think you should stop driving a car and ride a bicycle. You do not have a right to pollute. Stop it! Now!

    Cars have pollution control systems. And in my state if your car does not pass a pollution inspection you can not drive it on the road, legally.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Cars have pollution control systems. And in my state if your car does not pass a pollution inspection you can not drive it on the road, legally.
    Same in my state, but that does not mean that cars do not pollute and it certainly does not mean they don't use energy. The argument that has been made here is that we cannot waste energy nor can we pollute and that we must pass laws to prevent that from happening. Okay, then let's do it, but let's not mickey mouse around with the piddly stuff like lightbulbs. Let's go after the major items. Let's make a real difference rather than just faking it. That's been my argument, but now the folks who are for conservation and clean air are not supporting my thesis. I just don't understand.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Turns out, guys, it is. At least, the majority of Americans seem to think so. Because if we're talking strictly in terms of cost per day, averaged out, CFLs' longer life span reduces its relative purchase cost vs. incandescents. But the real savings comes from the reduced power used for the bulb. It depends on the kWh rate, how often the bulb is used, etc., but here is a relatively simple way to calculate how much you could save with CFLs or incandescents. All this bill, signed in to law back in 2007, does is to say that incandescents need to pick up the pace...or start packing.
    You are forgetting to add in the costs of the unemployed workers.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Same in my state, but that does not mean that cars do not pollute and it certainly does not mean they don't use energy.
    So do light bulbs

    The argument that has been made here is that we cannot waste energy nor can we pollute
    Wrong the argument is minimize the impact of pollution and reduce wasted energy on a already overly loaded grid.
    and that we must pass laws to prevent that from happening. Okay, then let's do it, but let's not mickey mouse around with the piddly stuff like lightbulbs.
    Lightbulbs add up

    Let's go after the major items. Let's make a real difference rather than just faking it. That's been my argument, but now the folks who are for conservation and clean air are not supporting my thesis. I just don't understand.
    pretty much everything is subject to increased energy efficiency.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No, I think you should stop driving a car and ride a bicycle. You do not have a right to pollute. Stop it! Now!
    No. You do not have a right to pollute when there are alternatives. Cars aren't an alternative to bikes nor were they meant to replace them. That's like saying candles are alternatives to sunlight or lifesavers are alternatives to boats.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    And you think you did? Oops. Sorry. I cannot say anything further. I do have a question. Have you never heard of the free market?
    Yes. It's the false belief that people and markets will make the healthier economic decision in order to preserve their existence. This belief exists even though humanity has proven in over 6,000 years of existence that we're mostly incapable of doing what's best for ourselves. See: History.
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