View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yeah, but it's a little sad that they will sometime in the near future, no longer be made, or simply made as a novelty.
    Honestly? I don't think they're going to be phased out entirely. I think the market will pick up, yes, but I think that demand will still exist for paper books. But there is a real chance that you are right. Look what happened to typewriters: Manual typewriters are only found in museums now, and even electronic ones have almost entirely been phased out. Might the laptop be next?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Same with the new light bulb efficiency standards. That was his point.
    The point is not analogous. There are three issues with the attempt at making an analogy that prevent it from being an analogy. Can you and your authoritarian buddies enumerate what those three issues are?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So now you admit I was right the entire time only to make another stance on a false claim. Answer me this, who is holding up those power plants you hate so much? I will give you hint, it starts with a G. Ask yourself this, why does the government bitch that the power companies won't invent new technologies but at the same time pay to make the business model profitable? To even claim for a minute the government has a reason to speak here is nonsense.
    You have been right about nothing relevant to the topic. The light bulb standards are a way to reduce wasteful consumption and save money. Unless you are pro-wasteful consumption and unnecessary spending, this is a good thing.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You have been right about nothing relevant to the topic. The light bulb standards are a way to reduce wasteful consumption and save money. Unless you are pro-wasteful consumption and unnecessary spending, this is a good thing.
    Actually, it should be none of your business if a person wants to do something that you believe is wasteful and costs money. Another person may not agree with you. You are far too much of a know-it-all and that is why you have tyrannical leanings. Now, go sell your car, purchase a bicycle, and come back when you are not quite so hypocritical.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You have been right about nothing relevant to the topic. The light bulb standards are a way to reduce wasteful consumption and save money. Unless you are pro-wasteful consumption and unnecessary spending, this is a good thing.
    Actually I have been right about everything so far.

    Facts so far
    1) It is a ban since it takes a product off the market
    2) The problem is the support of the power plants, not the light bulbs.

    If you wish to talk about harm put the focus where it belongs. If take off the support of the power plants you will get you alternative energy wishes.
    Last edited by Henrin; 08-15-11 at 01:11 AM.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Actually, it should be none of your business if a person wants to do something that you believe is wasteful and costs money. Another person may not agree with you. You are far too much of a know-it-all and that is why you have tyrannical leanings. Now, go sell your car, purchase a bicycle, and come back when you are not quite so hypocritical.
    There's a fundamental flaw in this reasoning: If one person's mistakes affected absolutely nobody, that would be one thing. But we do not live in a vacuum. And when those mistakes involve the environment, then certainly mistakes affect others.

    That's why there are pockets of resistance to Big Oil and Big Coal's aggressive expansion, even in VERY conservative pockets of America.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Actually, it should be none of your business if a person wants to do something that you believe is wasteful and costs money. Another person may not agree with you. You are far too much of a know-it-all and that is why you have tyrannical leanings. Now, go sell your car, purchase a bicycle, and come back when you are not quite so hypocritical.
    You're wrong when you say it is nobody else's business but yours if you are being wasteful, particularly when the wasted element is not solely your possession. The outlaw of littering has similar reasoning, i.e., the trash is discarded in a location that doesn't belong to the offender. There are even instances where the wasting of one's money should not be private, especially when they are receiving financial support based on tax dollars. If my tax dollars are funding the lunch money for another family's children then that family should not (at least morally speaking) be wasting money by purchasing items which are not of reasonable necessity.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    There's a fundamental flaw in this reasoning: If one person's mistakes affected absolutely nobody, that would be one thing. But we do not live in a vacuum. And when those mistakes involve the environment, then certainly mistakes affect others.

    That's why there are pockets of resistance to Big Oil and Big Coal's aggressive expansion, even in VERY conservative pockets of America.
    Then quit being a hypocrite and sell your car and ride a bicycle. Also, rather than coercing the public to purchase lightbulbs that are more "efficient," why don't you look at the real drivers of the use of energy and shut them down now. How about air conditioning in the home? Does it use as much energy as the lightbulbs in the home? Again, how about the auto? Make there pollution standards by 0 and make them use 0 energy. That would end that waste and would save a ton of money. How about all the equipment in manufacturing plants? They must use a ton of energy.

    But no, you just nickel and dime us around the edges so you can pound your chest and say that I am better than you. In the meantime, you drive your pollution producing, energy guzzling, ineffective costly cars and point fingers at us because we want to spend a couple hundred dollars a year on something we want versus something the know-it-alls say we can't have, but continue to drive those cars.

    Phony-baloney-plastic-banana!

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by extrastrictman View Post
    You're wrong when you say it is nobody else's business but yours if you are being wasteful, particularly when the wasted element is not solely your possession. The outlaw of littering has similar reasoning, i.e., the trash is discarded in a location that doesn't belong to the offender. There are even instances where the wasting of one's money should not be private, especially when they are receiving financial support based on tax dollars. If my tax dollars are funding the lunch money for another family's children then that family should not (at least morally speaking) be wasting money by purchasing items which are not of reasonable necessity.
    This is a repeat answer as it is just as fitting here as the last one.

    Then quit being a hypocrite and sell your car and ride a bicycle. Also, rather than coercing the public to purchase lightbulbs that are more "efficient," why don't you look at the real drivers of the use of energy and shut them down now. How about air conditioning in the home? Does it use as much energy as the lightbulbs in the home? Again, how about the auto? Make there pollution standards by 0 and make them use 0 energy. That would end that waste and would save a ton of money. How about all the equipment in manufacturing plants? They must use a ton of energy.

    But no, you just nickel and dime us around the edges so you can pound your chest and say that I am better than you. In the meantime, you drive your pollution producing, energy guzzling, ineffective costly cars and point fingers at us because we want to spend a couple hundred dollars a year on something we want versus something the know-it-alls say we can't have, but continue to drive those cars.

    Phony-baloney-plastic-banana!

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Then quit being a hypocrite and sell your car and ride a bicycle. Also, rather than coercing the public to purchase lightbulbs that are more "efficient," why don't you look at the real drivers of the use of energy and shut them down now. How about air conditioning in the home? Does it use as much energy as the lightbulbs in the home? Again, how about the auto? Make there pollution standards by 0 and make them use 0 energy. That would end that waste and would save a ton of money. How about all the equipment in manufacturing plants? They must use a ton of energy.

    But no, you just nickel and dime us around the edges so you can pound your chest and say that I am better than you. In the meantime, you drive your pollution producing, energy guzzling, ineffective costly cars and point fingers at us because we want to spend a couple hundred dollars a year on something we want versus something the know-it-alls say we can't have, but continue to drive those cars.

    Phony-baloney-plastic-banana!
    Massive, massive strawman in your arguments there. Can you please engage in a civilized debate instead of trolling like this?

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