View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
  • OTHER / I dont know / Chimichanga

    4 5.26%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This is actually a good point. New technology is causing book sales to fall all without the government interfering.
    Book sales aren't falling, just physical paper book sales. People are still buying tons of ebooks. It's not technology that kills the publishing market, it's largely the publishing industry that slits it's own throat.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Book sales aren't falling, just physical paper book sales. People are still buying tons of ebooks. It's not technology that kills the publishing market, it's largely the publishing industry that slits it's own throat.
    The point was paper books.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I believe the energy policies were better prior to the Dept of Energy than after.
    Am I supposed to be surprised that you would think that?
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm never giving up my old toilets. If I move, I'm taking them with me.
    LOL! Seems fitting!
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    ... and if I want to use incandescent light bulbs and pay more for them and the energy they waste, that's my business.
    No one is stopping you from buying incandescent light bulbs, you can buy them at Home Depot and other local stores.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It sounds like your being selfish, as only one who is selfish would not admit to partaking in the squandering of our children's inheritance. I do not claim to be not guilty of this crime, but I do claim to do my best at being efficient and being non-wasteful as soon as I can. Unlike some people, I can admit that I make mistakes, that I am human. Simply because one is guilty of making poor decisions does not make that decision any less poor.

    Am I saying you should "feel guilty about using a particular light-bulb"? Certainly not as guilty as depleting the earth natural resources by not supporting the cause to stop using non-renewable resources. If you're not for getting off using non-renewable resources, you are against it.

    Denial is the first sign of guilt and a sign of immaturity. One who cannot see their shortcomings, cannot handle the possibility that they are imperfect. The sooner people own up to their mistakes, the sooner we as a race will make progress. Denial of imperfection is pitiful and reflects poorly; it is this way because it is so very clear that no one is able to be perfect and denial of that appears bullheaded.

    Simply because you feel helpless in a situation, does not require you to distort your beliefs to better serve your ego, i.e. some may say: "there's nothing I can do about it so I will just say there's nothing wrong with it".



    Let me ask you .. if everyone in society jumped off a bridge .. would you do that too? Using your logic, if everyone started murdering people, it would be O.K. because "virtually everyone" is guilty of it. Your reasoning holds no water. It just looks more like a cop-out than anything.
    Isn't it ironic to see all the so called "conservatives" whining about conservation.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I think you can believe they should be thrown out of office. If the citizens of the city believe that burning things in the park is advantageous, you might win. If not, I believe you will lose.
    Same with the new light bulb efficiency standards. That was his point.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Yeah, you caught me. Your arguments are so morally superior to mine that I just cannot offer anything worthwhile.
    we agree here!
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Very good. And I thought most conservatives didn't get absurdity and irony.

    But, to get serious about the issue. There is NOT a ban on incandescent light bulbs. There is merely a minimum standard of efficiency that all light bulbs must meet. Energy efficiency standards have been put in place by both Republican and Democratic administrations since the energy crisis of the 1970s.

    I just find it appallingly silly that people are getting all apoplectic over it now, but didn't say a thing about it when Bush signed the bill.
    I think you have hit on the reason for the opposition now. It is not about the bill.
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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No one is stopping you from buying incandescent light bulbs, you can buy them at Home Depot and other local stores.
    And let's keep it that way.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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