View Poll Results: Incandescent Light bulb ban.... do you care?

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  • I care! The ban is foolish! I want my incandescent bulbs!

    20 26.32%
  • I like the ban! Bring on new lighting technology!

    20 26.32%
  • I dont care either way!

    13 17.11%
  • I like incandescent bulbs and fluorescent ones. But dont make a law about them!

    19 25.00%
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Thread: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I think you can believe they should be thrown out of office. If the citizens of the city believe that burning things in the park is advantageous, you might win. If not, I believe you will lose.
    And win we shall! We're gonna march to that park next weekend and hold a pro-freedom rally while playing "Burn, Baby, Burn" at top volume! Because WE represent the oppressed and silent majority who wants to be able to burn our trash in the park!

    On a more serious note, are you really suggesting that such an act would be perfectly OK if a city council approved it?

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Actually, I believe he has the freedom to eat cereal with razor blades in it and I encourage him to pursue his freedom.
    If he is not hurting anyone else by doing so or if the overall well-being of both himself and others equal less harm all the way around, then yes, he should be free to eat razor blades. However, the morality of self mutilation and suicide is a topic for another poll. The principal I think he was trying to get at was the ethical position that the freedom involved in doing something such as murdering someone else is not worth the the consequences it causes others .. i.e the overall good is not served. Using self mutilation and or suicide was definitely a risky analogy as most people do not completely agree on how "bad" suicide is under certain circumstances.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    And win we shall! We're gonna march to that park next weekend and hold a pro-freedom rally while playing "Burn, Baby, Burn" at top volume! Because WE represent the oppressed and silent majority who wants to be able to burn our trash in the park!

    On a more serious note, are you really suggesting that such an act would be perfectly OK if a city council approved it?
    I don't know about a city park, but in many places one can burn trash on their own land.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's not about the light bulbs... it's about choice.
    I bet you jump for joy or throw a party when your mother let's you choose between Fruity Pebbles and Cheerios.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    It just keeps getting sillier and sillier.
    I wonder if people actually see the simple statement of "It just keeps getting sillier and sillier" as an actual argument. I fear more and more that our world is destined to play out a similar scenario as that portrayed in the movie "Idiocracy" (if you haven't seen it I highly recommend it).

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Very good. And I thought most conservatives didn't get absurdity and irony.
    That's just what you were taught.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    But, to get serious about the issue. There is NOT a ban on incandescent light bulbs. There is merely a minimum standard of efficiency that all light bulbs must meet. Energy efficiency standards have been put in place by both Republican and Democratic administrations since the energy crisis of the 1970s.
    That's fine. I think however there is a ban in California - so I'm glad I don't live in that State.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    I just find it appallingly silly that people are getting all apoplectic over it now, but didn't say a thing about it when Bush signed the bill.
    I don't care if Jesus himself signed the bill. If I want to spend $5 a bulb for incandescent I should be allowed to. If others want the new CFL's or LED, I say go for it. My whole point here is "banning" anything for the common good is just as absurd as your example, from my point of view.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    If he is not hurting anyone else by doing so or if the overall well-being of both himself and others equal less harm all the way around, then yes, he should be free to eat razor blades. However, the morality of self mutilation and suicide is a topic for another poll. The principal I think he was trying to get at was the ethical position that the freedom involved in doing something such as murdering someone else is not worth the the consequences it causes others .. i.e the overall good is not served. Using self mutilation and or suicide was definitely a risky analogy as most people do not completely agree on how "bad" suicide is under certain circumstances.
    If liberals want to use self-mutilation or commit suicide, I have no problem with it and, in fact, I encourage it.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Some cannot see the value of choice. Their indoctrination is completed throughout their lives and know no better. Do not hate the person, hate the ignorance.
    So you support gay marriage? Abortion rights? Legalization of marijuana?

    If you support these rights of choice - then you might consider light bulb efficiency standards to be an evil restriction of your freedom.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I don't know about a city park, but in many places one can burn trash on their own land.
    I don't mean on their own property, out in the middle of nowhere. I'm talking about building a refuse fire right there on public lands.

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    Re: Incandecent Bulbs Made Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I wonder if people actually see the simple statement of "It just keeps getting sillier and sillier" as an actual argument. I fear more and more that our world is destined to play out a similar scenario as that portrayed in the movie "Idiocracy" (if you haven't seen it I highly recommend it).
    I think the phrase sums up where this discussion has ended. With that, have a great day, but I have had enough silliness for one day. See you down the road.

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