View Poll Results: Is this poll painful to you?

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  • No, it is not painful.

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Thread: Civil War Poll

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    Re: Civil War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Civil War Poll

    This is weird. I was creating a poll on Civil War allegiance, when my computer shut down. Now I see this. Wow.
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    Re: Civil War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    This is weird. I was creating a poll on Civil War allegiance, when my computer shut down. Now I see this. Wow.
    This is what happens when the animals in a zoo get control for a few hours. I would make a new poll, though this one has had some interesting discussion as well.
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    Re: Civil War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I love the last one. European generals at the time were saying how the Civil War was essentially a war waged by amateurs, and some of them even went so far as to say that they could take over for either side and win the war.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Civil War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Does anyone besides me not get what this poll is about...

    It is remotely possible that the OP failed to add a poll, and that some mischievious imp added one based purely on the words in the OP....

    But that, of course, is mere speculation.

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    Re: Civil War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually it is. The single quickest, strongest, best path to victory for the North was to stop dicking around and go to an all out war of attrition, and say what you want about Grant(such as he was a terrible tactician, not entirely false), but strategically he was exceptional, and he showed the will to continue with his strategy, which was not easy. The south had what was probably the best tactical leader of the era in Lee, and previous to Grant, the North mostly fought Lee in ways that accentuated Lee's strength. Grant, for all the **** he is given, was the one general who managed to take Lee's strength away from him.
    I know it is rare. I completely agree. His goal was to make the South bleed to death on the battlefield. He succeeded.

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