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Thread: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    I would disagree that everyone makes up their mind for themselves, although I wish it was that way. Too many people simply parrot whatever Fox News or their preacher or their parents or Al Gore tell them. Also, I think you're using a different definition of "liberal" and "conservative" than the rest of us. To us, liberal means on the left and conservative means on the right. You're using them to mean what we call extreme and moderate. I mean, you can make up your own definitions if you want, but it's gonna make it kind of hard for you to talk to other people.
    Democrat means the left and and Republican means the right, as in the literal left and right sides of the center isle down the middle of the chamber. Ever hear "reaching across the isle"? That's where it comes from.

    So, unless you honestly believe that I was in pre-revolutionary France, which is where this terminology originates, even you can see the error in your accusations.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Originally Posted by Jerry
    Liberals of all parties, absolutely. It's always the liberals who make a big deal out of everything. The liberal right wants to make America a thocracy, while the liberal left wants religion eradicated from the face of the earth. **** them both.

    "Liberal" means you're on the extreme, so naturally 'conservative' means your more to the center, practically speaking, which is why conservatives of any party can usually find common ground with eachother and compromise quickly.
    Political movements are connected through historical or ideological relationships. There is no liberal right. The right-wing are fiscal conservatives (prioritize business-friendly policies), libertarians (prioritize power relationships between states and individuals to states), and social conservatives (prioritize family and communal values and behaviors). They get along because the thing that pleases them most is keeping liberals out of office; they can put up with a lot as long as that requirement is met.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 06-11-11 at 08:47 PM.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Political movements are connected through historical or ideological relationships. There is no liberal right. The right-wing are fiscal conservatives (prioritize business-friendly policies), libertarians (prioritize power relationships between states and individuals to states), and social conservatives (prioritize family and communal values and behaviors). They get along because the thing that pleases them most is keeping liberals out of office; they can put up with a lot as long as that requirement is met.
    DP doesn't have 'left' or 'right' in it's list of leans. Are you suggesting that Vauge add them, and delete 'libertarian' in accordance with your view that libertarians are on the right?

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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Democrat means the left and and Republican means the right, as in the literal left and right sides of the center isle down the middle of the chamber. Ever hear "reaching across the isle"? That's where it comes from.

    So what about countries without a Democratic or Republican party? In this country, the Democrats are (supposedly) the liberal party, and the Republicans are the conservative party. In the UK, the Tories are conservative and the Labour Party is liberal (I think. Feel free to correct me on that).
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    DP doesn't have 'left' or 'right' in it's list of leans. Are you suggesting that Vauge add them, and delete 'libertarian' in accordance with your view that libertarians are on the right?
    Libertarians are right economically and left socially. Soviet style communists would be left economically and right socially.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The strength of one's positions can certainly identify one as moderate. The degree of mixing of someone's positions can certainly identify one as independent. Both concepts are valid positions.
    'Moderate' doesn't mean anything for anyone's total political outlook to define them as one.

    'Independent' can only mean you make up your own mind, which everyone already does anyway.

    'Unaffiliated' is simply the lack of affiliation. It's not a positive 'I belong to this group' political identity. Ironically, taking the 'unaffiliated' label affiliates you with the 'unaffiliated', making them all a group, which they claim they are not yet shot themselves in the foot by taking the label. This is why I previously equated them with the emo-goths of high-school; they conform to each-other in their anti-conformism, dressing and acting like each-other.

    Its like "Im such a non-conformist, that I'll just conform myself to a group of "non-conformists"
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    I would never make everyone that disagrees with me vanish. I would lose most of my friends and my whole family. Also, I don't really mind people disagreeing with me as long as they are not nazists or cultural marxists. We need a range of opinions.

    However, I would make cultural marxists vanish. Cultural marxists are people who believe all cultures are equal and the only reason poverty exist is due to the western world. They are also huge fans of asylum immigration. That would cause a lot of people to vanish, especially among the political elites. However, it is worth it because they are in process of destroying Europe.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    'Moderate' doesn't mean anything for anyone's total political outlook to define them as one.
    Moderate means that one's political outlook is within a certain standard deviation, not on the tail end or on the mid-ends.

    'Independent' can only mean you make up your own mind, which everyone already does anyway.
    Independent means someone has a mix of issues regardless of where they fall on the standard deviations of each of those issues.

    'Unaffiliated' is simply the lack of affiliation. It's not a positive 'I belong to this group' political identity. Ironically, taking the 'unaffiliated' label affiliates you with the 'unaffiliated', making them all a group, which they claim they are not yet shot themselves in the foot by taking the label.
    Being part of the "unaffiliated" group is a misnomer. It's not a group at all. It's nothing more than a placeholder at DP.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    DP doesn't have 'left' or 'right' in it's list of leans. Are you suggesting that Vauge add them, and delete 'libertarian' in accordance with your view that libertarians are on the right?
    I thought we were referring to political movements in the United States, not on debate politics specifically.
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    Re: Would You Eradicate All Persons Who Don't Subscribe To Your Political Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Moderate means that one's political outlook is within a certain standard deviation, not on the tail end or on the mid-ends.
    That's a Centrist.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Independent means someone has a mix of issues regardless of where they fall on the standard deviations of each of those issues.
    Don't we all.

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    Being part of the "unaffiliated" group is a misnomer. It's not a group at all. It's nothing more than a placeholder at DP.
    I thought DP had a default group for those who were simply staff and not mods, such as the Bar Tender and the lol'basement-team'. Is this not so?

    What if DP gave all staff colors for their leans regardless of staff status?

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