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Are Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, Farrakan, and Malik Shabbaz... Racists?

Are they Racists?


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Umm...I was countering your point that white people are called racist while blacks are excused for racism with the fact that black people are also accused of racism by those who excuse whites for racism. It's pretty self explanatory. I'm sorry that the word "liberal" offends you even though accusing "liberals" of playing the race card is a common tactic used by the latter group of people. But it seems you missed my greater point that some people of all affiliations cannot get past their partisanship when looking at racism.

Again. I mentioned nothing of political ideology. My statement has NOTHING to do with partisanship...

The terms "Liberals" "Conservatives" and "Partisanship" do not belong in any appropriate response to my point.

My point is that if folks are going to excuse the statements and actions of these four boneheads as not racist "because they don't believe they are superior than another race"
Then they should ALSO be defending Don Imus from the accusation of racism based upon his "nappy headed hoes" statement.

I'll be willing to bet if I pulled up the Archives, I would find some folks calling the idiot Imus a racist for his statement, but defending these four idiots.
 
Who are you even talking about Caine? Who thinks its free game to call "anyone else" a racist? Be specific because the only thing your doing right now is making vague accusations against the entire human race.

Did you fail to read the post I quoted?
then go back and do it, cause im not requoting it to conform to your laziness.
 
Again. I mentioned nothing of political ideology. My statement has NOTHING to do with partisanship...

The terms "Liberals" "Conservatives" and "Partisanship" do not belong in any appropriate response to my point.

My point is that if folks are going to excuse the statements and actions of these four boneheads as not racist "because they don't believe they are superior than another race"
Then they should ALSO be defending Don Imus from the accusation of racism based upon his "nappy headed hoes" statement.

I'll be willing to bet if I pulled up the Archives, I would find some folks calling the idiot Imus a racist for his statement, but defending these four idiots.

Who are these folks? Your post was about people excusing blacks for racism but not excusing whites. My post explained that some people excuse whites for racism but don't excuse blacks. My point was that this excusing one group over the other either way usually happens along partisan lines.
 
Who are these folks? Your post was about people excusing blacks for racism but not excusing whites. My post explained that some people excuse whites for racism but don't excuse blacks. My point was that this excusing one group over the other either way usually happens along partisan lines.

How about those of us who aren't excusing anyone? A racist is a racist, doesn't matter what color their skin is.
 
But if someone started giving scholarships only to whites, the black community would crap themselves. Go figure.
And that reaction still doesn't make the scholarships any more racist.
 
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How about those of us who aren't excusing anyone? A racist is a racist, doesn't matter what color their skin is.
I'm not talking about people who aren't excusing anyone. I'm talking about those who are.
 
Who are these folks? Your post was about people excusing blacks for racism but not excusing whites. My post explained that some people excuse whites for racism but don't excuse blacks. My point was that this excusing one group over the other either way usually happens along partisan lines.

Wrong again.
My discussion of this matter has nothing to do with Partisan Politics.... Get that **** out of your head.

Try again without talking about politics.
 
And that reaction still doesn't make the scholarships any less racist.

So then you agree that giving scholarships only to blacks is racist?
 
I find it interesting that folks who have a "knee jerk" about black culture (Hip Hop, Basketball, etc) are called racists just because they don't like it.

Notwithstanding, I can't stand hip-hop music, but I love Darius Rucker's music..... I must be a racist who is a traitor towards the ways of the racist man.... :roll:

uhm you realize your post has nothing to do with mine right?
Your continued crying with nothing of substance is meaningless in an objective debate and your examples are meaningless since they are your opinion and made up assumptions LOL

are there black people that play the race card when theres no reason to play it? absolutley doesnt change the reality that everything is not racist, you raise above people that are the problem you don sink to their level or you become what they are, I guess you choose the 2nd one ;)
 
Did you fail to read the post I quoted?
then go back and do it, cause im not requoting it to conform to your laziness.
I read it Caine and yet I'm still trying to place your generalizations.

This is what you wrote: "The definition of "One who thinks their race superior to others" (racism) is the only way of looking at term when applied to blacks." Instead of addressing one poster, you're making an absolute statement as if your nonsensical interpretation of one post is absolute truth. This makes no sense.
 
Case in point.
What about this question makes the question think that one race is superior to another?

This is EXACTLY what im talking about.
The definition of "One who thinks their race superior to others" (racism) is the only way of looking at term when applied to blacks.

Anyone else, and its free game to call them racist just for improperly looking at a person of another race....

thanks for that opinion all the objective people will make of note of it. ;)
 
uhm you realize your post has nothing to do with mine right?
Your continued crying with nothing of substance is meaningless in an objective debate and your examples are meaningless since they are your opinion and made up assumptions LOL

are there black people that play the race card when theres no reason to play it? absolutley doesnt change the reality that everything is not racist, you raise above people that are the problem you don sink to their level or you become what they are, I guess you choose the 2nd one ;)

Who is crying?
My examples are not meaningless because Ive been called a racist for not liking hip-hop... Ive been called a racist for not like basketball.

Where have I sunk to their level?

You accused me of two things in this post with no cause...


And, my response was to that of which you said that Al Sharpton has knee jerk reactions to "white culture".
 
Wrong again.
My discussion of this matter has nothing to do with Partisan Politics.... Get that **** out of your head.

Try again without talking about politics.
You are not understanding anything that I'm saying. Try reading my posts and learning how opinion and conversation work.
 
You are not understanding anything that I'm saying. Try reading my posts and learning how opinion and conversation work.

You are responding to my point by trying to turn it into a discussion of partisan politics.

This is not my intent, as I give a rats ass about partisan politics in a discussion about race.
 
You are responding to my point by trying to turn it into a discussion of partisan politics.

This is not my intent, as I give a rats ass about partisan politics in a discussion about race.
Unfortunately, partisan politics play heavily into the problem you highlighted of people excusing the apparent racism of one race and not the other.
 
Unfortunately, partisan politics play heavily into the problem you highlighted of people excusing the apparent racism of one race and not the other.

It shouldn't.
I know this is debate politics and all, but people shouldn't let their political ideology control how they view race relations in the US.
 
Who is crying?
My examples are not meaningless because Ive been called a racist for not liking hip-hop... Ive been called a racist for not like basketball.

Where have I sunk to their level?

You accused me of two things in this post with no cause...


And, my response was to that of which you said that Al Sharpton has knee jerk reactions to "white culture".

you are in fact crying LOL

I know a person that thinks it racist when people use the term black so what? LMAO

its NONSENSE and you are sinking to their level by wanting to call everything else racist or CLAIMING that everything you do is racist when it was just an opinion of some retard.

Dont let morons define what is racists, thats what you are doing.

Big whoop some idiots called you racist for somethings that werent racist doesnt make it true so you can use those examples to justify your opinions UNLESS you want to be equated to being a moron like they were.

If you act like the morons you become one and enable them to win.
 
It shouldn't.
I know this is debate politics and all, but people shouldn't let their political ideology control how they view race relations in the US.
I agree wholeheartedly and my point was that excuses for people tend to fall on partisan lines. People, liberals and conservatives, tend to excuse those of their own political affiliation which is nonsensical.
 
you are in fact crying LOL

I know a person that thinks it racist when people use the term black so what? LMAO

its NONSENSE and you are sinking to their level by wanting to call everything else racist or CLAIMING that everything you do is racist when it was just an opinion of some retard.

Dont let morons define what is racists, thats what you are doing.

Big whoop some idiots called you racist for somethings that werent racist doesnt make it true so you can use those examples to justify your opinions UNLESS you want to be equated to being a moron like they were.

If you act like the morons you become one and enable them to win.

I am not crying for one... stop with the ****ing trolling.

Two, I am discussing the difference between the standards that many on this very message board set when determining whether or not something is racist, and pointing out that it is interesting that there are those who would defend these guys as not racist because they define racism as <blank> but then not applying that same definition when the tables are turned while still applying the term racist.

I am discussing Hypocrisy.
 
All these clowns are Racist! I used to love Rev Al but he changed:(
 
All these clowns are Racist! I used to love Rev Al but he changed:(

And at least you are applying the same standard you apply to whites of comparable caliber to these folks.
Its commendable.
 
Racism implies unreasonable or unwarranted action to promote one race over another. Trying to overcome past injustice does not qualify. I do not think these men are racist. I think they are overzealous at times, and sometimes look for conflict where none exists, but I criticize their methods, not their intent. Minorities, especially black people, still face a lot of discrimination in this country.

What you said about they still face a lot discrimination is true and they do not need asswipe racist like those in polls to help. They do more damage than good:(
 
I am not crying for one... stop with the ****ing trolling.

Two, I am discussing the difference between the standards that many on this very message board set when determining whether or not something is racist, and pointing out that it is interesting that there are those who would defend these guys as not racist because they define racism as <blank> but then not applying that same definition when the tables are turned while still applying the term racist.

I am discussing Hypocrisy.

LMAO nobody is trolling nice deflect but Im not doing anything of the sory except exposing your flawed examples/logic.

You are crying with your examples saying "its unfair" and acting like those retards that judged you set the standard when they dont.

And yes I agree the you are discussing hypocrisy and you are an example of it. You are giving examples of what was done to you and you think its wrong but yet turned around and did the same thing. You want to judge things because "hey it was done to me"

You made blanket statements like everyone feels the way those idiots that judged you do but thats not true.

This may not be what you intended to do but its what you did.
 
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