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Are Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, Farrakan, and Malik Shabbaz... Racists?

Are they Racists?

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OscarB63 said:
really? wright accusing whites of genocide isn't racism? :roll:
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You obviously have no understanding of what racism is which is ironic since conservatives are always bitching about liberals pulling the racism trigger to often. Accusing the U.S. government of "genocide" does not indicate the blacks are superior to whites. It's a conspiracy theory that comes from legitimate distrust in the U.S. government. When you remember things like this Tuskegee syphilis experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia when the U.S. government purposely kept blacks ignorant of having syphilis and watched them die and pass it on to their children just for government experiments, it becomes easier to understand. In other words, it's legitimate distrust in the government intensified.

The Public Health Service, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began the study in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished, African-American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama; 399 who had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201 without the disease. For participating in the study, the men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood," a local term used to describe several illnesses, including syphilis, anemia and fatigue.

By 1947, penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Choices available to the doctors involved in the study might have included treating all syphilitic subjects and closing the study, or splitting off a control group for testing with penicillin. Instead, the Tuskegee scientists continued the study without treating any participants and withholding penicillin and information about it from the patients. In addition, scientists prevented participants from accessing syphilis treatment programs available to others in the area.[citation needed] The study continued, under numerous US Public Health Service supervisors, until 1972, when a leak to the press eventually resulted in its termination. The victims of the study included numerous men who died of syphilis, wives who contracted the disease, and children born with congenital syphilis.
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You also neglect to understand that he blames the GOVERNMENT, not the white race.
 
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Henrin said:
This is what Wright actually said..

What is that to you? Ignorance only?
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It's amplified distrust and paranoia based in actual actions by the US government in the past that have knowingly or intentionally targeted black Americans. See my post to Oscar about the syphilis experiment.

Imagine if whites existed in a country that had enslaved their ancestors, considered them subhuman and then until the 1970s performed an experiment on whites that knowingly watched them die and pass a disease on to their children for science instead of treating them. Obviously some white people would be pissed, stay pissed and end up paranoid with conspiracy theories. It wouldn't make them racist.
 
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Wake said:
Are they racist or not?

Can you prove or disprove such claims?
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Why did you only include black people in your poll? What does that say?
 
On average, African-Americans have about a fifth European admixture, so there's going to be issues of cognitive dissonance and self-hate involved when someone's "racist" against part of themselves.

Institutional racism requires that big parts of society be discriminatory against a racial group in a way that negatively affects them. I don't see that Sharpton and Wright have favored that. Their focus is on advancing blacks, but blacks have been put a few laps behind whites on the track and need advancement to achieve equity.

I voted that Farrakhan and the guy from the New Black Panther Party were racist based on their statements about Jews.
 
pbrauer said:
Why did you only include black people in your poll? What does that say?
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...that you can't fathom hypocritical racists being called out?
 
Al be conk'n that hair, My Man. He wanna look White.
 
It is interesting how some people want to construe "racist" very broadly in some cases... and very very narrowly in others.

If you've ever heard Wright's preaching, you wouldn't doubt for a second what he is. Farrakhan likewise.

Al Sharpton is probably just a self-aggrandizing racial opportunist, like Jesse Jackson.
 
OscarB63 said:
so IOW, it's OK for them to be racist because they are black?
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No, that's not at all what I said. I said it's ok, IMO, for them to be racist because they were themselvs victims of racism. Turnabout is fair play.
 
Goshin said:
It is interesting how some people want to construe "racist" very broadly in some cases... and very very narrowly in others.

If you've ever heard Wright's preaching, you wouldn't doubt for a second what he is. Farrakhan likewise.

Al Sharpton is probably just a self-aggrandizing racial opportunist, like Jesse Jackson.
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You hit on the problem, which is how do you define racism. based on my definition, which is a belief of superiority or inferiority of races(which is I believe the closest to "correct" definition), the answer would be who knows in all cases. I can't read minds.
 
Wake said:
...that you can't fathom hypocritical racists being called out?
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If there are black people who are racist, does it increase or diminish the problem of racism? Pointing to just black people you think are racist is basically using the "but little Johnny did it too" defense.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No, that's not at all what I said. I said it's ok, IMO, for them to be racist because they were themselvs victims of racism. Turnabout is fair play.
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I can see a legion of counter-responses to this. Sorry.
 
OscarB63 said:
just because some white people say/believe the same thing doesn't make it any less racist. I could point to dozens of statements made by whites that are considered racist when blacks have said the same thing. :shrug:
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I agree but then what is the point of them point to something and claiming that alone makes it racist. :shrug:

the two things you said does not make racism
stupidity? yes
racism? dont see it
 
OscarB63 said:
really? wright accusing whites of genocide isn't racism? :roll:
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nope not the way he said LOL
if thats how he said.
He said he believes white government created it to kill black people.
not sure where the "racism" is

Like i said he consorts with white people, they go to his church, they work at his church and some of those clowns believe this is true

wheres the "racism" meaning where does he condemn ALL WHITES in this case for it to be RACISM?

just saying accusing a group of whites or some whites in general isnt racism by definition.
 
OscarB63 said:
really? would you think it racist if a white guy said "blacks brought AIDS over from africa in an attempt to wipe out whites and homosexuals"
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nope, again whats racist about it, its kooky talk but not racist. LOL
now if you said ALL blacks are in this plot and you also add something like to wipe out us superior whites then yes im sold, THAT would be racist!

these Muslims that I know are out to kill americans.

Is this a bigoted statement?
Nope
Why?
it doesnt condemn all muslims.
 
Wake said:
I can see a legion of counter-responses to this. Sorry.
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Thank's ok, I'm hunkerin' down. So far though ... nothing. :waiting:
 
OscarB63 said:
really? then I guess I can safely say that blacks are over-represented by a factor of 3 on welfare rolls and crime statistics without fear of being called a racist :roll:
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uhm is this true? then no its not racist no matter what you think and if someone calls you racist for saying it, they have the problem not you.

So the point is you raise ABOVE you dont sink to their level? lol come on you are smarter than that

hell theres lots of people out their that FALSELY play the race card that doesnt mean that what they played it for automatically becomes racist

those people are part of the problem, dont be like them, be better

I know an idiot that thinks its racist just to say black, HE IS AN IDIOT, his opinion that its racist doesnt magically make it soo
 
I'm not one of those who insist that only white people can be racists. Every race can have racists. If we look at the four people listed, change their skin color to white and the skin color of those they rant against to black, then every person in the country would call them racists. They espouse a racist agenda. Therefore, yes, they are racist.
 
No no of them are racist. Racist implies a sense of superiority simply because of race. They are just race baiter's who use race and racial issues to make money. Bigots, yes. Racists in the true sense of the word? No.
 
DiAnna said:
I'm not one of those who insist that only white people can be racists. Every race can have racists. If we look at the four people listed, change their skin color to white and the skin color of those they rant against to black, then every person in the country would call them racists. They espouse a racist agenda. Therefore, yes, they are racist.
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I dont think thats true at all about reversing it as long as you reversed everything.

I do agree a billion percent that racist come in ALL races though!. I personally know a handful of racist blacks, thats for sure.

But I dont think the first two are racist by anything provided here and what I know of them, Just jackasses.
 
Blackdog said:
No no of them are racist. Racist implies a sense of superiority simply because of race. They are just race baiter's who use race and racial issues to make money. Bigots, yes. Racists in the true sense of the word? No.
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Interesting, I admit im not well versed in all of these guys but you dont think Farrakhan has a sense of superiority?

what do you think it is?

do you think he actually feels inferior and its a cover?

or hes just a total fraud calypso dancer?
 
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