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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Nope. He chose not to marry her, thereby signing up for either a) her terminating the pregnancy, or b) at least 18 years of child support payments. As I stated previously, this is the first time I've heard of a guy having a tantrum because she DID terminate (whether by miscarriage or abortion is not actually known, nor do I want to know. He's already gone waaaay over the line sharing her personal business with anybody possible).
    It doesn't matter if they were married or not, the decision remains hers, period. Those options exist for any two people having sex. Just being married doesn't magically give the guy control over a woman's uterus.
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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So, theoretically, a happily married couple... woman gets pregnent... man is happy... woman is not... woman says 'I am getting an abortion'... man is supposed to say 'sure honey, whatever you say'???
    Yes. If she is not willing to give him as many babies as he wants, and he is not willing to settle for the babies she has already given him, they are not happily married. There is a problem in their marriage, and they need to resolve it; fighting over one baby is not going to solve their problems, and forcing her to give him more is certainly not going to help. If she wants more babies than he's willing to keep, forcing him to keep more is only going to make the problem worse. And if they cannot resolve those problems, then their marriage is over; how can it function when it is broken on such a fundamental level?

    This is one of many reasons that men and women should not marry carelessly.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the only problem is that the woman can choose to make the man pay for the baby for 18 years, whether he wants it or not. not fair, but guys should always keep that in the back of their mind before they engage their warp drives.
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    her body, her decision. with one caveat

    her body, her decision, her financial responsibility
    That's only a problem as long as we make it a problem. You've already figured out the solution.

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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    You've already figured out the solution.
    stay away from raggedy bitches. seriously, the way the current system works, a guy should think before he has sex with any female: am I willing to support a kid with this person for 18 years? if the answer is anything other than "yes". keep it in your pants or enter through the backdoor
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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Yes. If she is not willing to give him as many babies as he wants, and he is not willing to settle for the babies she has already given him, they are not happily married. There is a problem in their marriage, and they need to resolve it; fighting over one baby is not going to solve their problems, and forcing her to give him more is certainly not going to help. If she wants more babies than he's willing to keep, forcing him to keep more is only going to make the problem worse. And if they cannot resolve those problems, then their marriage is over; how can it function when it is broken on such a fundamental level?
    You read a little more into my theoretcial than was there.

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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Whether from a pro-choice (early fetus is not person) or pro-life (fetus is person) viewpoint, his rights have nothing to do with it.

    No property is involved, how does he have rights involved?

    His parental rights are irrelevant; there is no visitation or joint custody of a fetus, the logistics don't work.
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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Okay, as far as the marriage thing goes? They'd only been together for 6 months. A marriage ultimatum seems a bit irrational after 6 months of dating. Acting out of anger to do something to hurt the guy after being denied a marriage proposal is childish and pointless. This entire situation is loaded with immature tools acting like immature tools.
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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    stay away from raggedy bitches. seriously, the way the current system works, a guy should think before he has sex with any female: am I willing to support a kid with this person for 18 years? if the answer is anything other than "yes". keep it in your pants or enter through the backdoor
    I've done this all my life. It's why I'm the oldest person I know with no children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You read a little more into my theoretcial than was there.
    In that case, "yes" will suffice.

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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Okay, as far as the marriage thing goes? They'd only been together for 6 months. A marriage ultimatum seems a bit irrational after 6 months of dating. Acting out of anger to do something to hurt the guy after being denied a marriage proposal is childish and pointless. This entire situation is loaded with immature tools acting like immature tools.
    "Acting out of anger to do something to hurt the guy?" Where did you get that?? She wouldn't even tell him how the pregnancy ended. I was in these exact shoes when I got pregnant with my daughter. Her - the impregnator was an immature little git. I only found out at court that I lied to him. Told him he wasn't the father. That's how serious I was about "If you can't propose before I make the big announcement, then ffs do NOT do so after." (I was in a blackout. Yes. I was pickled the entire first trimester while I ran scared from the thought that I was pregnant, again, without benefit of wedlock. Coming out of a pentecostal background has that effect.)

    He told the judge at the child support hearing (that the county insisted on) that I told him he wasn't the father. The judge said "Be that as it may, Mr. G., the test results indicate to a degree of 99.989% that you are, in fact, the father." He refused to look at a picture of his daughter, who has his height, blue eyes, nose, chin, and build.

    All that is to say - I didn't decide to stay pregnant because of him, or in spite of him. I did what was right for me, when I was ready.

    P.S.: Calling her immature when she's only 18 seems rather harsh.
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    Re: Poll based on two other threads re: Billboard Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    "Acting out of anger to do something to hurt the guy?" Where did you get that?? She wouldn't even tell him how the pregnancy ended. I was in these exact shoes when I got pregnant with my daughter. Her - the impregnator was an immature little git. I only found out at court that I lied to him. Told him he wasn't the father. That's how serious I was about "If you can't propose before I make the big announcement, then ffs do NOT do so after." (I was in a blackout. Yes. I was pickled the entire first trimester while I ran scared from the thought that I was pregnant, again, without benefit of wedlock. Coming out of a pentecostal background has that effect.)

    He told the judge at the child support hearing (that the county insisted on) that I told him he wasn't the father. The judge said "Be that as it may, Mr. G., the test results indicate to a degree of 99.989% that you are, in fact, the father." He refused to look at a picture of his daughter, who has his height, blue eyes, nose, chin, and build.

    All that is to say - I didn't decide to stay pregnant because of him, or in spite of him. I did what was right for me, when I was ready.
    That's a petty move on her part. She got pregnant, wanted a proposal. Leaves for a week or so. All of a sudden the pregnancy has ended. She refuses to explain what happened because she's butt hurt that the guy didn't propose after 6 months of dating.

    Not to put this girl into question (and believe me, I already think the guy's a douche), but was the pregnancy ever proven? Or was she trying to get a proposal and thought that was the best way to get one? Either way, both of these people are idiots, they bothed behaved immaturely, and both reacted out of spite. I respect neither of them and victimize neither of them.
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