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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't hold any kind of office job with a large business, no. The reason why is because of **** like this. And I would rather be homeless and pander for money and risk dying violently in an ally or wasting away from some kind of illness than try to earn it doing stupid **** alongside incompetent people who only try to make my job harder because they're ****ing tools.

    But that's just me.
    Its just a job. I don't worry about this type of stuff (and mostly I don't care beyond a vague sense of "is the company doing well in general? if is healthy financially?") I just try to do a good job with the stuff I have control over.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its just a job. I don't worry about this type of stuff (and mostly I don't care beyond a vague sense of "is the company doing well in general? if is healthy financially?") I just try to do a good job with the stuff I have control over.
    Well have you gone as far as you could with regards to the things you have control over? If so, then you're fine. If not, then consider what other options you have and go for it.

    But if it's "just a job" and the level of managers above you really are infighting so much to a level of incompetence that you describe then I would just do whatever my boss tells me to do and keep my head down. I wish you the best of luck.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well have you gone as far as you could with regards to the things you have control over? If so, then you're fine. If not, then consider what other options you have and go for it.

    But if it's "just a job" and the level of managers above you really are infighting so much to a level of incompetence that you describe then I would just do whatever my boss tells me to do and keep my head down. I wish you the best of luck.
    1. Its a job and not a moral crusade. I am not going to take up a moral fight for anyone but myself.
    2. Every large company in the entire world operates in this manner.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    1. Its a job and not a moral crusade. I am not going to take up a moral fight for anyone but myself.
    2. Every large company in the entire world operates in this manner.
    In that case, best of luck to you.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    In that case, best of luck to you.
    I will be fine. The company is financially healthy and if the project fails, blowing 2million on it isn't going to change its position (its a multibillion dollar top line company). Given that it will be rolled out in stages, if things go wonky, it will be much less than that.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 06-07-11 at 09:06 PM.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    What do you think you owe your employer? You should absolutely leverage them into a position where you are more useful to them. You seem to know how the game is played, so why are you so hesitant to play?

    In any case, you have given good objective reasons why the implementation you want is better for the company. If it is the same advice you would give if asked your unbiased opinion, then there's no conflict of interest.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Disclose any conflicts of interest. Speak based on personal experience. Don't embellish or overstate the advantages or disadvantages.
    “Real environmentalists live in cities, and they visit what's left of the wilderness as gently and respectfully as possible.” — Donna Moulton, letter to the editor, Tucson Weekly, published on August 23, 2001

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