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    Re: Is this ethical?

    No Oracle is very good software, the application that requires the database is the POS.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    No Oracle is very good software, the application that requires the database is the POS.
    Then speak up on that.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Then speak up on that.
    I have raised my concerns with the department managers privately. They agree, but they are being pushed to get it done anyway. However, based on my opinion of the software, I may not take an offer to become a DBA if offered since I don't want to be blamed for something beyond my ability to control. No credit if I make it work well, blame if I do not. As far as my boss goes, he's on vacation this week. I may talk to him next depending on how this week goes. I am going to do some config changes on the hosting box to see if it helps.

    However, this move is being dictated by intermanager politics more than the need for data, and that is something I am hesitant to get deep into.
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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I have raised my concerns with the department managers privately. They agree, but they are being pushed to get it done anyway. However, based on my opinion of the software, I may not take an offer to become a DBA if offered since I don't want to be blamed for something beyond my ability to control. No credit if I make it work well, blame if I do not. As far as my boss goes, he's on vacation this week. I may talk to him next depending on how this week goes. I am going to do some config changes on the hosting box to see if it helps.

    However, this move is being dictated by intermanager politics more than the need for data, and that is something I am hesitant to get deep into.
    Is it possible to go over the heads of the managers politicking and talk to somebody above them who are more interested in investing in good reliable equipment and software for the business than in livening up their lame lives with stupid drama that would cause the business to run more inefficiently?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Is it possible to go over the heads of the managers politicking and talk to somebody above them who are more interested in investing in good reliable equipment and software for the business than in livening up their lame lives with stupid drama that would cause the business to run more inefficiently?
    Not over the director level, no.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Not over the director level, no.
    Could all those managers you spoke to who agree with you provide a united front to support that position? Or is the politicking happening at the level that they belong to, or are they caught up in the politics as well?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Could all those managers you spoke to who agree with you provide a united front to support that position? Or is the politicking happening at the level that they belong to, or are they caught up in the politics as well?
    Do you actually work for a company> This is how the game works in all of them, if they grow to sufficient size.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Is it possible to go over the heads of the managers politicking and talk to somebody above them who are more interested in investing in good reliable equipment and software for the business than in livening up their lame lives with stupid drama that would cause the business to run more inefficiently?
    Yeah, what could possibly go wrong trying to go around and over those above you in the hierarchy? I mean, telling your boss's boss that your boss is stupid is always a great career move.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Do you actually work for a company> This is how the game works in all of them, if they grow to sufficient size.
    I don't hold any kind of office job with a large business, no. The reason why is because of **** like this. And I would rather be homeless and pander for money and risk dying violently in an ally or wasting away from some kind of illness than try to earn it doing stupid **** alongside incompetent people who only try to make my job harder because they're ****ing tools.

    But that's just me.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is this ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Yeah, what could possibly go wrong trying to go around and over those above you in the hierarchy? I mean, telling your boss's boss that your boss is stupid is always a great career move.

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    It is if your boss *really is* stupid, and therefore costing your boss' boss more money than he should be spending.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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